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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (162498)2/28/2003 5:24:52 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576643
 
Ted, <When he goes into war without the UN, that percentage will be significantly lower.>

Actually, the U.N. really is irrelevant. The only reason why people prefer us to get "authorization" before attacking is because most people still want the U.N. to see things our way.


Then that means that a majority of the American public sees the UN as relevant....only the right and Mr. Bush think otherwise. The fact that you all are so out of step is extremely dangerous to the well being of the rest of us.

Assuming the war is quick and relatively light in casualties, the percentage supporting the war in hindsight will be significantly higher. This can change on a moment's notice if the body bags start piling up. And you can bet the Dems and the media will start focusing very closely on the death toll, and not just for the humanity of it.

I hope you're right. I have a sneaking suspicion this war is not going to be an easy one. Logic would say otherwise but we shall see.

ted



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (162498)2/28/2003 5:44:09 PM
From: Alighieri  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1576643
 
Actually, the U.N. really is irrelevant.

Do you realize how dumb it is for bush and anyone else to take this position? The UN is what makes the war legitimate, in the eyes of more than 1/2 of our country and a far greater percentage of the world population. For all his political advisers, bush sure is screwing up on this one. Do you realize that in the coming years leaders who have supported bush will come up for re-election in their respective nations? Ask youself what an incredible gamble this is. If the war remains unpopular in Europe and everywhere else in the world, most of these leaders will be opposed by candidates that will campaign on the basis of American opposition. The price the US will pay in political isolation could be huge. The UN is far from irrelevant. It is the only world body we got. We need leaders who support it and uphold its legitimacy.

Al