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To: Alighieri who wrote (162512)	2/28/2003 5:54:19 PM
From: i-node	Respond to of 1576823

The UN is far from irrelevant If the council does not vote to go to war against Saddam within the next couple of weeks, the UN will have begun drawing its last breath. The organization is useless, and has been since the Gulf War. It was incumbent on the UN in '98 to INSIST on military action to deal with Saddam at that time. But it failed to act, and at the time the US had an incompetent president who didn't have the guts or the political capital to make it happen. While war is now inevitable, so is the death of Saddam Hussain and so is the death of the UN, UNLESS the threats of veto subside (it is important to note that at this point in the buildup to the Gulf War the same three countries were threatening veto). Bush and Blair will defeat Saddam Hussain and will free the Iraqi people. Chirac and Schroeder will win the Nobel prize (even though Bush and Blair will be responsible for bringing peace to the Middle East). And the UN will fade into useless oblivion. It may take 20 years to die, but it will die. Good riddence. A useless organization.

To: Alighieri who wrote (162512)	2/28/2003 6:20:34 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576823

Al, six out of ten Americans support war in Iraq. And four out of ten still support a war even without U.N. approval. Only two out of ten remain opposed to war regardless of what the U.N. does. usatoday.com You can infer that six out of ten Americans have already made up their minds for or against the war regardless of what the U.N. does. That's what I mean by "irrelevant," not that the U.N. itself is irrelevant, but that when it comes to people's opinions, the U.N. is subordinate to their own personal beliefs. Just remember, the U.N. is a forum, not a governing body. Either that, or you'd prefer to obey Libya when it comes to human rights issues. Tenchusatsu

To: Alighieri who wrote (162512)	3/2/2003 5:18:14 PM
From: hmaly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576823

Al Re..The UN is what makes the war legitimate, in the eyes of more than 1/2 of our country and a far greater percentage of the world population. That is what you say, but it doesn't say that in the constitution. Sure, UN approval would be nice, but name me one war Bill went into, where he got UN approval first. None, I thought so. Gw tried, but is unlikely to get it. So. People will understand the reasons after the war, and take them into account. The UN is far from irrelevant. It is the only world body we got. True, but it is powerless, and out of date. A reformed UN could be relevant again, but not in its current form.