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To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (364960)3/1/2003 1:29:14 PM
From: Johannes Pilch  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Except, of course, the "retaliation" happens 500 years later.

Big deal. This certainly will be of concern only to those who have neither respect nor knowledge of God and His Scripture. If you will read the Deuteronomy 25:17-19 text, you will see it quite clearly states that God tells Moses what He is going to do in the future concerning the Amalekites. Those of us who know God understand that to Him 500 years (actually it wasn't even close to 500 years, but I'll accept this to show you the weakness of your position) is nothing.

The point of the matter is that the Amalekites drew upon themselves God's curse for having assaulted God's people. God informed Israel of the curse and why it exists. Sure enough, much later we see Saul being commanded by God Himself to attack an utterly destroy Amalek. This was no general command to murder people simply because they believe other things (as we see in the Quran), indeed we see in the Scriptures that the Kenites are actually spared because they, unlike the Amalekites, were kind to the weary Hebrews during the Exodus (1 Samuel 15:1-7).

The Deuteronomy text clearly records that God Himself was behind the use of Israel to pour wrath upon Amalek. That He waited to do it is His own business. The text obviously is no command to me or anyone else to kill anyone. It only records the history of God and His work between the Hebrews and the Amalekites.

But i wanted to expand on something i alluded to in my first response: The ambush and genocide writ isn't mentioned in Exodus. It's in Deuteronomy...

It is a sure sign of an opponent's utter defeat when he suddenly and completely abandons the issue at hand to run to some other wholly unrelated issue he fancies is a weakness in his adversary.

But it is no weakness at all. Your problem, Steve, is that you have blinded yourself with the fantasy that the Scriptures are wrong. It is you that is wrong. We see the ambush and promise of retaliatory wrath mentioned in Ex 17:8-16, in Numbers 24:20, and THEN in Deut. 25:17-19.

This is clearly a case of a back-dated blood libel as a rationalization for some pretty horrendous deeds already committed....

As I have shown above, it is clearly no such thing.

Which just goes to show: If you're writing the Bible it's even easier to use it to condone genocide.

Well by now you should see you are very much mistaken. You now ought to fall to your knees in repentance for being so friggin' ignorant and arrogant in your ignorance before the God Who made you.