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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (14762)	3/2/2003 4:49:11 PM
From: stockman_scott	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

Where's the proof that we are truly threatened by Iraq...? I would contend that countries that ALREADY have nuclear capability (like Pakistan and North Korea) are big weapons proliferators and are MUCH MORE DANGEROUS...Saddam is contained and we can disarm him in a peaceful way...Why go to war when you don't have to...?

To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (14762)	3/2/2003 4:55:14 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

So how does Saddams decision to invade Kuwait alone factor into your thinking? 1991 The U.S. had not previously indicated that Arab-Arab conflicts were a major concern, certainly not a cause for war with the U.S. Saddam had this view confirmed personally by the American ambasadore. Saddam's attack on Kuwait may have been a ruthless and calculated move to consolodate the oil fields, but it was not an attack on the U.S. It was only after the fact that it became a war with the U.S., a war Saddam did not ask for and probably would have avoided if he had known. In many ways, Gulf War 1 was similar to Bush Jr.'s war because from the point of view of Saddam, the rules were changed after the fact (ex post facto) and the real intent seemed to be to create U.S. basing rights in the middle east. In the light of the same people involved now that were involved then I think the purpose of Gulf War 1 was never about Kuwait except that it was seen as an opportunity to create American bases in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. Over the next 10 years those bases turned out to be less useful than Cheney and Rumsfeld predicted because the Arabs keep placing restrictions on them. Now they just want to do it again, move the current pretexts to create a cause for war, attack, build bases. This time they won't have restriction because they are going to take over the country. None of this makes Saddam a good guy, but he has been played for a sucker to promote the imperial dreams of a small group. TP