To: KLP who wrote (79350 ) 3/3/2003 9:52:55 PM From: JohnM Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500 So that I understand, John....Do I hear you saying that ... -- Americans don't need to be protected? --You don't think that Saddam has funded terrorists? -- "The Bosnian situation and the Iraqi situation" are different as far as the people are concerned...that the Iraqi's deserve to be tortured, raped, and murdered...? --I won't even go there with you and Clinton... No, Karen. I'm talking about perceptions. The perceptions of the Clinton administration actions in Bosnia were grounded in a global perception that something was wrong and needed fixing; in the perception that action would save lives, not take lives; and in the reality that the Clinton administration simply handled all the diplomatic stuff much better, on this issue, than the Bush administration has done on Iraq. As for the other questions, the issue of "terrorists" was not a primary one in Bosnia, and I've typed, repeatedly, that I don't think the issue of "global terrorists," meaning chiefly Al Q, is a primary one in Iraq. Americans need to be protected from Al Q; the issue of Iraq's threat to the US is quite different. Long bit of typing. But I've typed here, often enough, that I don't see it as imminent and thus deserving of an invasion. On the issue of torture, rape, and murder, that's definitely true in both cases and definitely unacceptable in both cases. The issue here is what should be done about that. In the first case, Bosnia, that was at the forefront of the rationale for going in, was widely accepted (witness the lack of protest); in Iraq it is well down the list after wmd, "regime change", threat to oil reserves, etc. So it has not been a prominent part of the rationale. I'll check the website once I send this reply. I've learned that if I do it while I'm typing the reply, I lose all my typing.