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To: LindyBill who wrote (79424)	3/4/2003 8:17:19 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

I think Turkey became a big Question Mark after the November election, when Erdogan's party took control. We were hopeful that Turkey would continue as secular as it had before, but it is changing, becoming less secular. Not the only piece of the puzzle, but probably a significant one. No real surprise, Erdogan is out front about being an Islamist, with the desire to install Shari'a law in Turkey. I don't think anyone really knew, not even Erdogan.

To: LindyBill who wrote (79424)	3/5/2003 12:48:08 AM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Hi LindyBill; Re: "The secret to shutting up a lot of the Arabs, plus the world wide opposition, will be the results." So far, the Bush administration's results on this fiasco have been horrible. They failed to convince NATO that a war was necessary. They failed to convince Turkey to allow our troops. So far Saudi Arabia and Egypt are still against it. Russia and France are fighting over the privilege of vetoing any resolution we can come up with, which can't get the 9 votes needed anyway. When France talked about continuing inspections at the UN they were applauded, which is supposedly quite rare at the UN. Maybe it will all work out in the end, but so far, it's not running very well at all. Given the record so far, why should we expect that the war and the occupation will go smoothly? -- Carl