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To: habitrail who wrote (30462)3/4/2003 11:16:20 AM
From: Jorj X Mckie  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 57110
 
shorting
-theoretical unlimited move against you (unknown risk)
-one for one moves, no real leverage (good and bad)
-no time erosion on position
-tough to short when the stock is moving down (uptick rule)

long puts
-known downside potential
-leveraged position (good and bad)
-time erodes premium
-other things can erode premium
-Entire investment can go to zero
-Options are a tool of the devil and only a fool would play them on the long side.

I'm sure that other can add to the list

Disclosure, I own SPX and SOX puts<GGG>



To: habitrail who wrote (30462)3/4/2003 11:49:25 AM
From: herry iball  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 57110
 
habital, last year I had a long position in a stock (2500 shares) that had closed at the days highs, was in a beeyootiful uptrend, and I was looking for a nice gap up to sell into in the morning.

Moody's downgraded em overnight, and news came out (this was during enron mania) that they may have to re-state earnings. Thing gapped down 4 bucks, and kept tanking with no bounces.

After a few blindsides like that I just said screw it, and now I just trade futures (intraday scalping) and options.
Many will tell ya that it is impossible to make money trading options....to this I say, huh?

My little rant about this topic:
siliconinvestor.com

The important thing is to roll over options prior to their becoming front month (unless you're just scalping 1-2 day moves). For longer term trades, I ALWAYS roll over to avoid time decay. I just sold the last of my March's last week before the weekend to avoid time erosion. I will be out of my April's by the end of the 3rd week of March (either out or rolled over to MAY-JUNE).

I also used to buy way out the money's for the big payday, and ended up having most of them expire worthless. Now, if I expect a large move down but don't know when....then I buy 3-6 months out (such as the homies like CTX and LEN)...when you know they'll crack, you just don't know when. Mostly though, I buy near the money or in-the-money....the deeper in the money, the more it is like trading the underlying itself.

Cheers.