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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Rock_nj who wrote (366161)3/4/2003 4:35:37 PM
From: DMaA  Respond to of 769670
 
That concept ONLY applies between government VS citizen not between citizens. Citizens can come to whatever conclusions they wish from any evidence they choose. If I witnessed Bill shooting a man, I'd call Bill a murderer regardless of whether he spent 1 minute in jail.

I believe Wanita.

But, in the eyes of people who believe in the concept of innocent until proven guilty, you'd be innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.



To: Rock_nj who wrote (366161)3/4/2003 4:36:19 PM
From: Bill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
That's patently false. The reality of the crime supercedes the criminal procedure, not the other way around. The criminal proceeding only addresses state penalties, not necessarily whether an act was committed. Even in the OJ case, after the criminal trial, he was found to have committed the killings in a civil proceeding which found him guilty based on a preponderance of evidence. So the standard of reasonable doubt isn't even applicable in all court proceedings.



To: Rock_nj who wrote (366161)3/4/2003 5:10:06 PM
From: George Coyne  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
You have got to be a lawyer! You apparently believe there is no such thing as truth, and that it is only what you can convince people of at any given time.