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To: HG who wrote (24265)	3/5/2003 4:48:05 PM
From: elpolvo	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 104167

happie girrrl- I believe what we call God is nothing except the force we call nature......and all that is natural.... a lot of people have a lot of definitions for god. fortunately, we all get to have our own. mine, like yours, is very simple - "THE UNIVERSE" all inclusive, like club med... the good, the bad and the rugby... time, space, faith, hope, birds that steal quarters, everything. given that definition, ask an atheist, "do you belive in 'the universe'?" "No," would be a curious answer. :) Thus the dharma of a scorpion is to sting. The sting and the venom has its place in the universe and the balance of the world would change if the scorpion didn't do what was its dharma. And man is the only living entity capable of understanding this balance. there is a zen saying i like... "when you understand, things are as they are. when you do not understand, things are as they are." :) but to get back to your thought, who are we to say the scorpion doesn't understand natural balance? on the subject of understanding... understanding is not a tangible thing. it is not necessary that it be based on morality, or logic or language or mathematics. it's just a feeling. all that is required to experience the feeling of understanding is consciousness and acceptance. mankind has no solitary claim to either. a scorpion doesn't ALWAYS sting. it stings based on it's understanding of when it is necessary to sting. i live in scorpion territory. i don't see any going around here stinging pre-emptively. <g> when i was in college i shared a large house with a friend. we had parties all the time with lots of people. many were strangers at first. one night there were two girls from out of state that no one had met before. there were maybe 15 or 20 people there and some knew each other and some didn't. there was a sort of fractured feeling among people... some separating to small cliques. some feeling fearful or distrustful of some of the people they didn't know well. the two outsider girls decided to do something about it. one of them said to the group, "i am thinking a thought. i will not say what it is. it is up to you to tell me when you 'get it'" but don't speak the thought out loud. immediately, her friend said, "i've got it." now it was a twosome of understanding. after more discussion and questions and conversation (but without giving away the thought verbally) a couple more people said, "oh... i've got it now," and then there was a foursome of understanding and the pleasurable look on the faces of those who had "got it" was so appealing - everyone wanted to understand... to "get it." the comaraderie of those who "got it" was powerful. those who had not yet "gotten it" felt estranged. this went on for about an hour until every single person in the house, had finally had the "ah ha" feeling and announced that they "got it". the original thought was never verbalized or spoken but the feeling of understanding was shared by every person present. it was a good, safe, warm, friendly, loving, trusting feeling among us all. what was the thought? well... i got it... but i can't tell you what it is... you tell me when you've "got it." ...but don't verbalize the thought and don't write it down. just feel it. out of the 15 or 20 people in my house there could have been that many different thoughts or concepts that they "got"... imagine wstera02 and stockman_scott being two of those people... now, because the thought was never verbalized and because everyone honestly waited until they had the feeling of understanding in their consciousness before saying, "i've got it" - everyone shared that same togetherness. can you imagine that happening with a group of strangers if the first girl had said, "i am thinking about peace in the world"... or " i am thinking about how great my president is." there would definitely have been some fireworks and hard feelings and separation down the line somewhere as people tried to correct each other's words and thoughts and POVs to align and harmonize with their own. it was an interesting experience. i've never written about it before. i'm not even sure i "understand" it <vbg> but i thought i'd share it. -dinghy