To: HG who wrote (24301 ) 3/5/2003 11:57:41 PM From: elpolvo Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 104167 happy girl- i understand where you are coming from... and for the most part yours are valid rational ideas...The kind of rational, collective understanding i talked about - i think mankind does have solitary claim on it. mankind's rational, collective understanding is such a miniature, microscopic piece of the entire framework of the universe that i don't give it much weight. the universe does not revolve around, or because of, mankind or his rational, collective understanding. it's not irrelevant... it's just not numero uno in the grand scheme of existence. how do i know? why, it's because i'm irrational, of course. <g> here's an interesting observation i've noticed - though not by scientific means and i can not quantify or verify it... but it seems to be true... that the higher one's intellectual capacity (or IQ) the more complex the theories and explanations must be to validate meaning and purpose in life. take for example, the question, "what is happiness?" a child or an imbecile may answer, "it's when i laugh." a dog may show you by wagging it's tail. a nerd like me will just type this ------> :) ...but a PhD in theology or psychology will write an entire thesis or a book explaining not only what happiness is but what its role is in the divine plan or how it fits in to the theory of evolution. i know that you have a very high intellectual capacity to understand much more complex explanations of what 'understanding' is than i do and it would be foolish and futile for me to debate these equations with you. the only way i can challenge you fairly in a contest of the understanding of 'understanding' is through my actions... not through my words. it is in the way i live life, not in the way i explain life. and that follows for the dog and the scorpion and the bee. watch us live. do we live in harmony with the natural law of the universe? or do we fight natural law? are we happy? or at least content with life?The responsibility of maintaining the balance of nature, is ours and ours alone. The most the rest of the species should have to do, must be to go about being themselves, but in reality they carry a higher burden of survival than they really should... horse hockey, i say. nature itself is comprised of all the forces it needs to maintain its balance. an imbalance, or shall i say, a weakness or excess of strength of force in any area is always countered by an opposing strength or weakness somewhere. you will see it if you look at it on a grand enough scale. the universe is always in the process of going away from or going toward a state of equilibrium and the further it gets from equilibrium, the stronger the force becomes that will return it toward equilibrium. and though this dynamic system at any given point in time or space appears to always be out of balance, if you sum the entirety of time and space and bring that into the equation you will see that the universe is actually a dynamic system in perfect balance. all mankind has to do is also "go about being itself". if mankind gets out of line with natural law so far that it puts undue burdens on the earth or other life forms, mankind will perish. the universe will not perish and life will not perish... ever thang gonna bee owl rat. have i spread enough of my bullshit to confuse you yet? i hope so, because it's all i have for now. and i hope stephen hawking is not reading this amateur attempt at explaining the physical laws of the universe. <vbg> now stop drawing me into these deep philosophical debates or i shall be forced to resort to clip art or motorcycle maintenance instead of pseudo-science and buffoonery to stay up with you. do you know anything about quantum mechanics or metaphysics? i can bullshit pretty good along those lines if i have to. <looks up at her with happy eyes, pants and wags his tail> let's go home mommy, i'm hungry, and i could use a nap. -el perrito blanco ps- don't tell oofie i spent an hour and a half writing and editing this one liner. <g>