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To: Earlie who wrote (226136)	3/7/2003 9:12:00 AM
From: Secret_Agent_Man	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

Earlie, people can't handle the Truth thus 5.8% is what's reported cause it what's believable...yeah right, the absolute #'s of layoffs exceeds that over the past 2 years and more jobs have been lost and the business of not counting those who've stopped looking and are on some form of welfare are not taken into account! c4t

To: Earlie who wrote (226136)	3/7/2003 9:23:34 AM
From: J. P.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

Tech unemployment is rampant. I'm positive the unemployment rate in software is far north of the listed national rate of 5.8%. Very palpable in the Bay area where many are desperate. Software sales for middleware is worse than bad, it is nonexistent. I speak with about 100 CEO's, CFO's and VP sales per month and they are a sorry bunch of sad sacks living off their VC capital with nothing to show right now. (interestingly, there is still adequate funding. Adequate enough for the company top five to live on comfy six figures anyhow....) For a snapshot of the unemployed horde in the Bay area, check out the job seekers here. Hundreds of unemployed techies posting their resumes: craigslist.org