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Politics : DON'T START THE WAR -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: thames_sider who wrote (16951)	3/7/2003 10:13:20 AM
From: zonder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

I think the real concerns are over Greece - which is perpetually on the brink of conflict, if not actual war, over Cyprus (not to mention various Aegean islands) That is ancient history. The two countries are on pretty good terms now, ever since the 1999 earthquake in Turkey which Greeks were first to help with specialist disaster teams, and the subsequent earthquake in Greece where Turks were first to help. Strangely enough, through two catastrophes, the two nations saw the human side in each other. You may have noticed that Greece lifted its veto of Turkey's candidacy into the EU in that same year. mjourney.com In addition, Turks would probably flock north in search of better-paid jobs than at home, which may be good in the longer run but would be problematic for some years and risk horrible political repercussions That is a much more important issue on the collective European mind. They already see the problems in Germany and Holland, where there are significant Turkish communities. The main reason why Turkey cannot be a real candidate for EU at this point is actually economics - there are certain levels of economic performance that EU candidates have to attain, and Turkey is about 10 years away from them - just look at their inflation...

To: thames_sider who wrote (16951)	3/7/2003 10:19:19 AM
From: Art Bechhoefer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 25898

>>how would it be taken if Mexicans were free to enter and travel supposedly in search of work, without restriction? << Well, unless you have blinders on and believe that our borders are closed tight, you should know that thousands of illegal workers come into Arizona and California regularly, and the authorities conveniently ignore them because the large farming operations need cheap labor. While the U.S. officially opposes illegal workers, the very businesses that depend on them oppose restrictions--and besides they turn out to be substantial contributors to the Republican Party. If large numbers of workers streaming into Europe is a problem (a problem that has also resulted in lower costs for European businesses or low level work that most Europeans don't want to do themselves), then it can be dealt with through a mutually agreed upon policy between all EU members. Such agreements are not easy to make because of the skills needed to obtain a reasonable outcome. Again, it's a case of political pressure overpowering any attempt at professional diplomacy to resolve problems. Art