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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (80780)	3/9/2003 6:40:01 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi	Respond to of 281500

One palace per country...that seems fair enough.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (80780)	3/9/2003 6:55:06 PM
From: paul_philp	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

For a while I've been predicting a 110 minute war ... King George II is going to show his 100 hour war Dad how things are done these days. Uhm, note to self, relationship between Moore's Law and the spread of the American Empire. Probably time to re-read "The Handmaid's Tale" too. Paul

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (80780)	3/9/2003 7:37:43 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Some silly Iraqi soldiers tried to jump the gun and surrender before it was time, which would have spoiled my prediction. I haven't brought it up, but I am worried that we have not activated enough MP units to take care of the prisoner load. I get a kick out of Jacob caterwauling that the conditions that the "poor, poor, Al Qaeda prisoners" in Gitmo are kept in. The Navy command down there is treating them much better than the reserve Army MP Company that got called up is being treated. I believe each prisoner has more room and amenities than our guys do in the barracks they go stuck with. I know the prisoners food is better. The Navy is crapping on the Army unit. I'm amazed at how many people are wringing their hands on the horrors that are to befall us. Since the Jackpot, things have gone swimmingly for the Good Guys and very, very badly for Al Q. They just can't stand the good news. It makes everything they believe in wrong. Sometimes it's hard to face reality, Mq.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (80780)	3/9/2003 8:15:46 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Oooops, it was the British the Iraqis surrendered to, not the USA troops. Message 18676391 Call it the fog of pre-war. They all look the same to me anyway, British and American soldiers. <...Some silly Iraqi soldiers tried to jump the gun and surrender before it was time, which would have spoiled my prediction. Sensibly, the bemused USA troops sent them back to wait for the official call to surrender, explaining that they were only testing their guns... > Mqurice PS: And now it's just an apocryphal story. An urban legend. Well, not exactly urban, but you know what I mean. Did anyone surrender or not? Was that disinformation from the disbanded USA "Office of Fog and FUDD"? [FUDD = fear, uncertainty, doubt and disinformation]. If word gets out from the psyops propagandists that Iraqis are surrendering already, it will reduce confidence in those left holding the fort for Saddam [who will NOT be leading the charge from the front lines].

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (80780)	3/9/2003 10:50:11 PM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

In those internet hours, our troops will be singing this song. :) American girls and American guys, will always stand up and salute. We'll always recognize, when we see ol' glory flying, There's a lot of men dead, So we can sleep in peace at night when we lay down our heads. My daddy served in the army where he lost his right eye, But he flew a flag out in our yard 'til the day that he died. He wanted my mother, my brother, my sister and me. To grow up and live happy in the land of the free. Now this nation that I love is fallin' under attack. A mighty sucker-punch came flying in from somewhere in the back. Soon as we could see clearly through our big black eye, Man, we lit up your world like the fourth of July. Hey, Uncle Sam put your name at the top of his list, And the Statue of Liberty started shaking her fist. And the eagle will fly and it's gonna be hell, When you hear Mother Freedom start ringing her bell. And it'll feel like the whole wide world is raining down on you. Ah, brought to you, courtesy of the red, white and blue. Oh, justice will be served and the battle will rage: This big dog will fight when you rattle his cage. An' you'll be sorry that you messed with the U.S. of A. 'Cos we'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way. Hey, Uncle Sam put your name at the top of his list, And the Statue of Liberty started shaking her fist. And the eagle will fly and it's gonna be hell, When you hear Mother Freedom start ringing her bell. And it'll feel like the whole wide world is raining down on you. Ah, brought to you, courtesy of the red, white and blue. Oh, oh. Of the red, white and blue. Oh, hey, oh. Of my Red, White and Blue.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (80780)	3/10/2003 10:39:22 AM
From: carranza2	Respond to of 281500

Al Q hasn't done much and I doubt can. Agree, and that is why it is so dangerous. It's a fantasy ideology in which grown men are acting like teenaged school-yard thugs. They are of course provisioned with bigger weapons, plenty of money, and are therefore still capable of doing lots of damage. Like thugs and bullies, they'll disappear when challenged. The US has done a terrific job in this regard. We have responded appropriately to AQ, but I suspect that history will judge that AQ was not as big a threat as we have thought it was.