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To: LindyBill who wrote (80853)	3/10/2003 12:03:54 AM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

LindyBill, looks like Powell may be influencing the French position. France 'wants to see Saddam out' From correspondents in Paris March 10, 2003 news.com.au A FRENCH junior minister today said that France would like to see Iraq's president Saddam Hussein removed from power. "Basically we agree with the United States," Patrick Devedjian, a deputy interior minister responsible for local affairs, told a local radio station. "UN resolution 1441 has French approval. We are in disagreement on the form, but we have no time for Saddam Hussein. "As to methods, there ought to be some more caution about disarming Iraq. "France is in agreement with removing Saddam Hussein from power. France of course also wants democracy for Iraq if possible, but it wants to achieve this by other means (than war). "Disarmament must lead to the democratisation of Iraq and the democratisation of Iraq is the end of Saddam Hussein. "The disarmament process is working today," Devedjian concluded. "Is this the right time to unleash hostilities that will cost much in terms of human life, including American lives?" Asked whether France might use its veto in the UN Security Council against a second resolution paving the way to war against Iraq, Devedjian said he was not sure whether the question was yet valid. France has not said it would veto a new US-British-Spanish resolution on Iraq but, backed by Russia and Germany, has furiously lobbied UN Security Council members to oppose it. The new resolution was expected to go before the UN Security Council this week. Even if US officials can garner the nine votes they need to pass the resolution, France, China and Russia -- all of whom oppose imminent military action against Iraq -- retain the power of veto as permanent members of the Security Council. Agence France-Presse

To: LindyBill who wrote (80853)	3/10/2003 12:05:25 AM
From: kumar	Respond to of 281500

I don't see a problem yet. As a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty in good standing with the IAEA, Iran has a right to pursue nuclear technology for peaceful purposes, subject to the agency's oversight. That right includes producing its own enriched uranium. Technically, Iran was not obligated to disclose its Natanz plant to the IAEA until it began processing uranium, although Khatami pledged to give advance notice of new construction in the future.

To: LindyBill who wrote (80853)	3/10/2003 12:43:14 AM
From: paul_philp	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

I am starting to get very worried. WTF is Russia thinking. There is zero chance that Israel can let this stand. Iran is committed to sending Israel back to the crusades. If this plant starts enriching Uranium, Israel will have to take it out and I think the US will have to provide cover since they have so many troops in the region. I fully expect Khobar Towera style terrorist attacks on soldiers in Iraq and incurrsion in Iran to clean the puss out. I still think North Korea is posting... I think I think that. And, on top of it all, we've got a US president that prays. The horror, the horror. Paul

To: LindyBill who wrote (80853)	3/10/2003 2:08:40 AM
From: Doc Bones	Respond to of 281500

"The bottleneck is getting the technology -- knowing how to build machines," said Gary Samore, senior fellow at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London. "Once a country has the technology, it's pretty hard to keep them from getting the bits and pieces. In case people wonder where these countries get their technical expertise, mostly from the U.S. America has an aggressive, unannounced policy of spreading our high-tech to the whole world, spearheaded by the H1-B program, which has been bringing in 200,000 foreign programmers, engineers, and other professionals a year. They take some of the best American jobs and get on-the-job training in the latest tech for 6 years. Many stay and many return to their home countries. The Iraqi nuclear program leader who defected was asked by MSNBC how many of the leaders of his program were trained in the West. He said: "They were all trained in the West." Asked what was most difficult about building the Indian H-bomb, the head of that project replied: "The computer calculations for the thermonuclear explosion were particularly complex." A modern computer infrastructure is essential to a modern WMD program. H1-B was designed by the high-tech industry to give them a cheap supply of tech workers in mostly third-world countries. Congress, hot on the money trail as usual, couldn't wait to accommodate them. The biggest reward for political people today is board seats on the big corporations. "The "Condoleeza Rice," e.g.; Colin Powell was on the AOL board before his current job, a board where Alexander Haig apparently cashed in hundreds of millions in options. Master fixer Vernon Jordan, your go-to guy when you've got a hot unemployed Monica Lewinsky on your hands, is on something like 7 boards. Phil Graham's wife Wendy went directly from making a federal ruling that exempted Enron from all federal regulation to a cozy $300,000+ / yr. seat on Enron's board and audit committee, where her expert eye somehow missed the shenanigans going on. H1-B has decimated the high-tech job market in the U.S., while causing booming job markets in India, and especially China. It's starting to dawn on some people that China is not our great pal who wishes us well. The third biggest H1-B country is Russia, and there are many from Pakistan and the Arab countries - just the people we want to be transferring our high-tech expertise to. Americans have noticed their high-tech economy is sputtering - well it's booming in China. Maybe they will jump on the liberal capitalist bandwagon someday and become just like us, but in the meantime I'd like to say how terribly sorry I am (without apologizing, of course) that the vicious pilot of our 21-person, $100 million spy plane, suddenly jerked his craft into the little toy trainer jet of the Chinese pilot who was only trying to be friendly, leading to his unfortunate demise. At least I don't have to say it in Korean, so far. Doc@stalkersRus.com