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To: JohnM who wrote (80951)3/10/2003 1:44:13 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
If anybody here is not reading Michael Ladeen, they should. The article on Carl Rove in the Washington Post today makes it obvious that what Ladeen writes, Bush reads. Here is the URL to the "Post" Article. washingtonpost.com

March 10, 2003 9:00 a.m.
A Theory
What if there's method to the Franco-German madness?

Assume, for a moment, that the French and the Germans aren't thwarting us out of pique, but by design, long-term design. Then look at the world again, and see if there's evidence of such a design.

Like everyone else, the French and the Germans saw that the defeat of the Soviet Empire projected the United States into the rare, almost unique position of a global hyperpower, a country so strong in every measurable element that no other nation could possibly resist its will. The "new Europe" had been designed to carve out a limited autonomy for the old continent, a balance-point between the Americans and the Soviets. But once the Soviets were gone, and the Red Army melted down, the European Union was reduced to a combination theme park and free-trade zone. Some foolish American professors and doltish politicians might say ? and even believe ? that henceforth "power" would be defined in economic terms, and that military power would no longer count. But cynical Europeans know better.

They dreaded the establishment of an American empire, and they sought for a way to bring it down.

If you were the French president or the German chancellor, you might well have done the same.

How could it be done? No military operation could possibly defeat the United States, and no direct economic challenge could hope to succeed. That left politics and culture. And here there was a chance to turn America's vaunted openness at home and toleration abroad against the United States. So the French and the Germans struck a deal with radical Islam and with radical Arabs: You go after the United States, and we'll do everything we can to protect you, and we will do everything we can to weaken the Americans.

The Franco-German strategy was based on using Arab and Islamic extremism and terrorism as the weapon of choice, and the United Nations as the straitjacket for blocking a decisive response from the United States.

This required considerable skill, and total cynicism, both of which were in abundant supply in Paris and Berlin. Chancellor Shroeder gained reelection by warning of American warmongering, even though, as usual, America had been attacked first. And both Shroeder and Chirac went to great lengths to support Islamic institutions in their countries, even when ? as in the French case ? it was in open violation of the national constitution. French law stipulates a total separation of church and state, yet the French Government openly funds Islamic "study" centers, mosques, and welfare organizations. A couple of months ago, Chirac approved the creation of an Islamic political body, a mini-parliament, that would provide Muslims living in France with official stature and enhanced political clout. And both countries have permitted the Saudis to build thousands of radical Wahhabi mosques and schools, where the hatred of the infidels is instilled in generation after generation of young Sunnis. It is perhaps no accident that Chirac went to Algeria last week and promised a cheering crowd that he would not rest until America's grand design had been defeated.

Both countries have been totally deaf to suggestions that the West take stern measures against the tyrannical terrorist sponsors in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, and Saudi Arabia. Instead, they do everything in their power to undermine American-sponsored trade embargoes or more limited sanctions, and it is an open secret that they have been supplying Saddam with military technology through the corrupt ports of Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid's little playground in Dubai, often through Iranian middlemen.

It sounds fanciful, to be sure. But the smartest people I know have been thoroughly astonished at recent French and German behavior. This theory may help understand what's going on. I now believe that I was wrong to forecast that the French would join the war against Iraq at the last minute, having gained every possible economic advantage in the meantime. I think Chirac will oppose us before, during, and after the war, because he has cast his lot with radical Islam and with the Arab extremists. He isn't doing it just for the money ? although I have no doubt that France is being richly rewarded for defending Saddam against the civilized countries of the world ? but for higher stakes. He's fighting to end the feared American domination before it takes stable shape.

If this is correct, we will have to pursue the war against terror far beyond the boundaries of the Middle East, into the heart of Western Europe. And there, as in the Middle East, our greatest weapons are political: the demonstrated desire for freedom of the peoples of the countries that oppose us.

Radio Free France, anyone?
nationalreview.com



To: JohnM who wrote (80951)3/10/2003 7:13:07 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hey, "Pompous Professor," how ya doing? "Sarcastic Islander" here. I just read the new "Harpers," and here is a synopsis of one of the stories. You will read it and go, "I knew it, I knew it!"

"For three weeks Jeffrey Sharlet lived at Ivanwald, home of the Fellowship Foundation or "the Family," as they call themselves, a secretive religious organization, based in the suburbs of Washington, D.C., whose membership is teeming with United States senators and congressman. In JESUS PLUS NOTHING: Undercover among America's secret theocrats (p. 53), Sharlet huddles with the "brothers" in prayer, competes with them in "bump," a basketball game meant to "sharpen both body and soul," and reveals the Foundation's goals which are as political as they are spiritual. "We recognize the place and responsibility of national secular leaders in the work of advancing His kingdom," states the Family's literature. Since the group was founded in 1935 it has influenced administrations and financed anti-Communist regimes (many less than democratic and even murderous). Through the National Prayer Breakfast, held annually in the capital, the Family recruits the powerful to meet Jesus "man to man." "We work with power where we can, build new power where we can't," remarks the Family's leader Doug Coe, a man who admires the unifying tactics of Hitler and the Mafia and is considered by the Family to be "Christ's closest disciple."
harpers.org

I also picked up Parker's latest "Spencer" Novel and read it in one arm chair setting at Borders. You will be happy to know that Parker is back in form, after several mediocre outings. It is called, "Back Story."



To: JohnM who wrote (80951)3/10/2003 7:37:29 PM
From: spiral3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I agree, in general, with that comment. It's not modernity, though, but the principle of individual interpretation of scripture that is the difference. The Bishop clearly speaks of the theology of the leadership of the Methodist Church and out of that tradition. Bush speaks, well, I'm not certain out of which tradition. Some have said an evangelical tradition. Perhaps..

Of God, and Man, in the Oval Office
washingtonpost.com
By Fritz Ritsch - pastor of Bethesda Presbyterian Church.
Sunday, March 2, 2003; Page B03

...>> "It bothers me that he wraps himself in a cloak of Christianity," said Lois Elieff. "It's not my idea of Christianity." To them, Bush's use of religious language sounds shallow and far more self-justifying than that of other recent political leaders -- including Bush's father.

The most striking characteristic of the younger Bush's use of religion is its relentless triumphalism. American triumphalism is nothing new, of course. Many of the earliest Christian settlers were religious zealots who viewed America as the New Zion, the Promised Land. Today's Americans, whether overtly religious or not, are their spiritual heirs. In my experience, secular Americans are as likely as religious Americans to believe that we are the rightful beneficiaries of some kind of manifest destiny.

But some on the religious right have built a theology around this hope. Many of them believe that America will be at its best if its government submits to their understanding of God's work on Earth. What they have longed for is a Davidic ruler -- a political leader like the Bible's David, who will unite their secular vision of the nation with their spiritual aspirations. All indications are that they believe they have found their David in Bush -- and that the president believes it, too.

Bush's religious supporters are his greatest cheerleaders. Rather than his spiritual guides, they are his faithful disciples. He is the leader of the America they think God has ordained. Contrary to popular opinion, the religion that this group espouses is Triumphalism, not Christianity. Theirs is a zealous form of nationalism, baptized with Christian language. The German theologian Dietrich Bonhoeffer, who was martyred by the Nazis, foresaw the rise of a similar view in his country, which he labeled "joyous secularism." Joyous secularists, said Bonhoeffer, are Christians who view the role of government as helping God to establish the Kingdom of God on Earth. He viewed this as human arrogance and a denial of God's sovereignty; but joyous secularism has an appeal that crosses religious boundaries, and now has added force in the United States because it has found its political messiah.

In the aftermath of 9/11, people came to church in droves, looking for larger meaning, and then they left again, frustrated. That's a problem churches need to address, not least because our failure to give them what they were looking for may have lent potency to presidential theology. When people were searching for meaning, the president was able to frame that meaning. In a nation of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. In a secular society, a president who can confidently quote scripture is that man.

The president confidently (dare I say "religiously"?) asserts a worldview that most Christian denominations reject outright as heresy: the myth of redemptive violence, which posits a war between good and evil, with God on the side of good and Satan on the side of evil and the battle lines pretty clearly drawn.

War is essential in this line of thinking. For God to win, evil needs to be defined and destroyed by God's faithful followers, thus proving their faithfulness. Christians have held this view to be heretical since at least the third century. It is the bread-and-butter theology of fundamentalists, whether Muslim, Jewish or Christian.

In contrast, the Judeo-Christian worldview is that of redemption. Redemption starts from the assumption that all of humanity is flawed and must approach God with humility. No good person is totally good, and no evil person is irredeemable. God's purpose is to redeem all people. Good and evil, while critical, become secondary to redemption.

While most Christian denominations do not reject war altogether, diplomacy becomes integral to our understanding of the practical application of redemption. War becomes the bluntest of blunt instruments because it can never be fully justified. If I can't claim to be completely good, and no one is so evil as to be irredeemable, what right do I have to kill?

Despite our secularism, the United States has rarely been so publicly and politically "Christian" as it is today. Or perhaps it is because of our secularism. We can no longer tell good theology from bad. We mainline denominations need to take our share of the blame: For decades we took it for granted that Christianity and citizenship were inextricably linked, that American power was the natural outgrowth of American righteousness. For too long we, too, preached American triumphalism. We did not remind people of the overarching guidance God gives all people in search of redemption: the necessity of the examined life. Ironically, our triumphalism may have fueled America's secularism. With God on our side, there didn't seem to be much need for self-examination and humility.

It is clear now that a sectarian Christian view of history, a dualism that views war as a kind of redemptive purgative, is having at least some influence on the administration's rhetoric. It is characterized by a stark refusal to acknowledge accountability, because to suggest accountability is to question American purity, which would undermine the secular theology of "good versus evil" inherent in present U.S. policy.

The dominance of the religious right in political affairs makes it appear that a Christian worldview dominates American politics. But if, as I believe, this worldview is really American triumphalism, Christianity has taken a backseat to joyous secularism. Within Christianity and Judaism in this country there are denominations and branches with the philosophical and institutional power and authority to challenge that triumphalism, but bold stands such as the NCC's are still the exception.

With the political emergence of joyous secularism, the churches are challenged to preach an alternative message: grace, hope and redemption -- the truth of Biblical faith. This is both our pastoral and our political responsibility. In a nuclear age, American triumphalism is not only spiritually bereft, it is, quite possibly, apocalyptic in its implications. <<<

...and another...

March 08, 2003
Bush fights the good fight, with a righteous quotation
timesonline.co.uk
Ben Macintyre

>>Not for Bush the grimly inspired ironies
of Siegfried Sassoon and Robert Graves, nor the
poignant, painful questioning of Wilfred Owen.
Instead, every morning at dawn, the US President
devotes himself to the exhortations of Oswald
Chambers, a Scottish evangelist who died while
serving as an army chaplain in Egypt in 1917.

Chambers’s little book, My Utmost for the Highest,
provides a daily devotional commentary alongside a
biblical text. It is uncompromising stuff, “full of
spiritual pluck and athleticism” in the writer’s words,
advocating absolute devotion to the will of God. That
Bush should be reading this before going into battle
says much about the religious belief that permeates
his Administration, and much about the way the
conflict will be fought and interpreted. It is also
central to explaining the disquiet of nations with
embedded secular political traditions, most notably
France, when faced with the most overtly Christian
American President of modern times.

>>The comparisons drawn between Bush’s belief and
Tony Blair’s religious commitment are facile. Blair’s
religion is private, the result of a lifetime’s interest in
theology; that of Bush is all-embracing, public,
intimately linked to his decision to give up drinking
and thus to his rise to the presidency. The key to
Bush’s emotional brand of religion (utterly different
again from the restrained Episcopalianism of his
father) is what one associate calls the “Goodbye
Jack Daniels — Hello Jesus moment”. Bush believes
that God put him in the White House. “Beware of
giving over to mere dreaming once God has spoken,”
is the advice of Chambers. Since the age of 40, it
has also been the guiding principle of Bush’s life.<<

Religion as used by most folks is simply a means to cope with existential dilemma, fine, but when it comes to nation building, the separation of Church and State, the fundamental Idea, can only be upheld through willful conviction. Just like the Constitution, Bush makes no bones about where he stands in this regard.

There is an aspect to Bush’s Christian line that amounts to nothing more than a transparent cloak of morality covering up a dubious, political agenda. Not that he’;s insincere in his beliefs or anything, but in the moral stakes you don’t get points for killing people. Whether you are for or against, the very sad fact of the matter, is that anti abortion programmes that do not include contraception,safe sex education, lead to more pregnancies and abortions not less. I heard on PBS that Saddams mother tried to abort him several times, but this dude has a strong will to live, and I spend too much time thinking about whether he has finally decided to die or not. I wonder how GWB feels about his Saudi friends who outlaw his religion, but whatever I’m fed up to here with moral clarity and two bit self-pronounced messiahs each attempting to promote and profit from their own particular Brand of "end time" scenarios. Marketing a solution is not the same as solving a problem - why are we taking our democracy and exporting it to Iraq?

February 24, 2003
Raze the Church/State Wall? Heaven Help Us!
By Jonathan Turley, Jonathan Turley is a law professor at George Washington Law School.
latimes.com

It is not uncommon for a president to work to undo the policies of his predecessor. Certainly, George W. Bush surprised no one by systemically undoing the work of Bill Clinton. More unnerving are Bush's recent efforts to undo the work of two other former presidents: Thomas Jefferson and James Madison. Though others, like Thomas Paine, were influential, it was Jefferson and Madison who laid the foundation for our long-held doctrine of the separation of church and state. In recent days, Bush has revealed a comprehensive effort to create his own vision of church-state relations. If successful, Bush may bring about the most fundamental change in American democracy since its creation.

edit: I see LindyBill beat me to it.