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To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (81117)	3/11/2003 4:13:32 AM
From: stockman_scott	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Were Neo-Conservatives’ 1998 Memos a Blueprint for Iraq War? abcnews.go.com <<..."Before 9/11, this group ... could not win over the president to this extravagant image of what foreign policy required," said Ian Lustick, a Middle East expert at the University of Pennsylvania. "After 9/11, it was able to benefit from the gigantic eruption of political capital, combined with the supply of military preponderance in the hands of the president. And this small group, therefore, was able to gain direct contact and even control, now, of the White House." Like other critics, Lustick paints PNAC in conspiratorial tones: "This group, what I call the tom-tom beaters, have set an agenda and have made the president feel that he has to live up to their definitions of manliness, their definitions of success and fear, their definitions of failure." Kristol dismisses the allegations of conspiracy, but said the group redoubled its efforts after 9/11 to get its message out. "We made it very public that we thought that one consequence the president should draw from 9/11 is that it was unacceptable to sit back and let either terrorist groups or dictators developing weapons of mass destruction strike first, at us," he said...>> This report originally aired on Nightline on March 5, 2003.

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (81117)	3/11/2003 4:14:52 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

If we try it your way, and it ends up being a failure, will you be willing to consider trying it my way? I won't have any choice. If we get failure out of this, a Democrat will win the Presidency, we will go "Multilateral," negotiate with everyone, and in a few years you can treat the Americans fleeing from the Holocaust in New York and DC.

To: Jacob Snyder who wrote (81117)	3/11/2003 6:36:53 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Hey, Jacob, here is an "Anti-War" guy from up your way that knows how to take it to the limit. Andrew Sullivan thinks he deserves an award. >>>SONTAG AWARD NOMINEE: "Quite probably the worst thing about the inevitable and totally unjustifiable war with Iraq is that there?s no chance the U.S. might lose it. America is a young country, and intellectually, emotionally, and physically, it has been exhibiting all the characteristics of an adolescent bully, a pubescent punk who?s too big for his britches and too strong for his age. Someday, perhaps, we may grow out of our mindless, pimple-faced arrogance, but in the meantime, it might do us a ton of good to have our butts kicked. Unfortunately, like most of the targets we pick on, Iraq is much too weak to give us the thrashing our continuously overbearing behavior deserves, while Saddam is even less deserving of victory than Bush." - novelist Tom Robbins, Seattle Weekly.<<<<<<< andrewsullivan.com