To: hmaly who wrote (163844 ) 3/11/2003 11:08:16 AM From: Alighieri Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1573711 What I am trying to say, is that our defense is our primary concern; So we disagree...there is no defense issue for the US relative to Iraq. This is a pretense that serves to reduce the credibility of the administration. The US is dominant only in paying through the nose, and as someone who is always blamed for everything. No one blamed the US in 1991, when that administration put together a consensus. This administration has botched the process. They have denigrated the UN, treated it with contempt, have said a priori that the institution is practically irrelevant, have frightened its members with lose talk of war, insulted members with similar references of their countries, and underestimated the degree to which the UN is important to their political standing in their own nations. The degree of incoherent and abysmal diplomacy is frankly shocking. The administration has undermined its own chances of succeeding at the UN...in the process also undermining the political standings of the leaders of the so called willing. Turkey cannot even be bribed. England, Spain, Italy...all these leaders are under tremendous pressure in their respective countries in large measure due to the loose lips and chest thumping of some of the members of this administration. Why would it be illegal. It is illegal to take military action against the UN charter. It is stupid and disingenous to go ask for its support while also calling the institution irrelevant. And now that GW wants to correct it, now you say we shouldn't. How? By saying that Iraq is not obeying the will of the UN and ignoring Israel for doing the same for years? By practically washing its hands of the Palestinian problem? We seem to have a selective ideas of what fairness is. Al