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To: lurqer who wrote (14432)	3/12/2003 12:09:33 PM
From: Mac	Respond to of 89467

The UN solution is very clearly a winner. Keep the US troops in position another 20 years until Saddam is to old to be effective. Let's see, that should only cost the US tax payor $356 billion per year or $7.12 Trillion . Peanuts !!.Cost to UN's France, Germany & Russia , Nada. Oh, let's not forget German & French military installations. Yes, they should show a hefty little profit on this. I think I will stay long on gold one way or the other.

To: lurqer who wrote (14432)	3/12/2003 12:34:01 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

"Way to go George." What a bunch of complete horseshit! And I suppose that we were to turn the other cheek? IMO, there was no response that the US could have done that would not have resulted in those fanatics either seeing us as weak or as invading infidels & used whatever response we made as a reason to commit more terrorist atrocities. It's just that simple. History is replete with evidence to support this! Well, I can think of one response that would have pleased them. We could have passed a law forcing all citizens to become Islamic fundamentalists. <NG> BTW, in your quest to understand, have you ever considered that this is a two way street? Why is it that we must always bend to the will of others, but you NEVER demand they understand us? And like death by a thousand cuts, we are changed & our rights are taken away & our freedoms are lost? Please refrain from the urge to tell me about our neo-con heritage of forcing our will, blah, blah, blah, either. That's just more horseshit too. This is the USA. We all allegedly have equal rights, but this political correctness bullshit & all that we must understand our Islamic brothers, & our African American brothers, & this group & that group only takes rights away from some while giving more rights to others. It is by no means equal rights for EVERYONE!!! Funny how all this need to understand, political correctness crap leaves out certain groups who are asked to do all the understanding!?!?!?! I NEVER see anyone of you folks stand up & state unequivocally that all of those groups you so fiercely defend also need to understand that EVERYONE has the same rights & we ALL need to understand EVERYONE's rights! And if you are going to slaughter innocent civilians for whatever reasons, there are going to be serious repercussions no matter where you are. JMVCO

To: lurqer who wrote (14432)	3/12/2003 3:02:08 PM
From: Crimson Ghost	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

High time to form United Muslim Nations: Pak expert Islamabad, March 12, IRNA -- It is high time the Islamic world formed a United Muslim Nations (UMN) to safeguard their collective interests, said a member of the Pakistan Parliament here on Wednesday. Abbas Kumaili, an MP, told IRNA here at Parliament House that the survival of the dignity of Islamic nations lay in their unity which, he said, necessitated the creation of UMN, not the United Nations. He cautioned that as long as Muslims remained divided and looked to the UN for solutions to their problems, they would continue to experience difficulties. It would be very practical, he urged, for Islamic countries to shun their differences of opinion, come out of the unrealistic US bloc and establish their own identity. "History bears testimony to the fact that the UN has miserably failed to address the issues concerning the Muslim world. Therefore, it is vital to form UMN," he maintained. The Pakistan Parliament comprises the National Assembly (Lower House) and the Senate (Upper House). Abbas Kumaili is member of the Senate. "The 56 Muslim nations should be transformed into a viable and effective platform, protecting not only Islamic countries but also the other weaker nations from aggression," the analyst suggested. Abbasi Kumaili said he did not see any reason why Muslim countries could not unite if in recent times European countries have been able to forge unity to safeguard their economic and political interests. "They have even introduced a common currency, the euro," he pointed out. Singling out Iran while citing a poetic verse by the great poet and philosopher, Allama Mohammad Iqbal, he said that Tehran was in a very good position to play a leading role in uniting the Islamic world. To a question, he said he believes that oppressed nations all over the world should have the courage to stand up before imperialist nations. "The US could be stopped from committing aggression if the Muslim countries and the European countries join hands," he asserted, adding that this was the only possible way to protect weaker nations. He pointed out that a sign of awakening was visible with traditional allies of the US vehemently opposing military action against Iraq. "This awakening must be cashed in to end America's hegemony," he emphasized. Abbas Kumaili welcomed the huge anti-war demonstrations in major cities in different countries around the world. He said the entire global environment was opposed to a US war on Baghdad. "If the Muslim countries and the countries in Europe and elsewhere failed to exploit the anti-US sentiment, the world may not find such a rare opportunity in decades," he noted. MHA/MMZ/LS End