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To: Solon who wrote (5949)	3/13/2003 4:51:35 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 7689

Such interpretations no longer fly in our culture. Such interpretations no longer fly in most Muslim countries either. Turkey? Tunisia? Iraq? ALL right or wrong is listed in a book. BFD. Every look at the cookbooks in the OT that go into minute detail about how sacrifices to the one Lord should be done? What do they mean now? What shoes you wear...what hand you wipe your bum with. Funny. I've been in that Holy of Holies, Saudi Arabia. Want to know soomething? EVEN THERE, they do not follow all those prescriptions. They take what they want and ignore the rest. Just like all other religions. Islam Nations do not allow any other religions...PERIOD. Ah, the ONLY Muslim nation I know of that actually bans other religions is Saudi Arabia. You got others? But with the new Government it has become more dificult, hasn't it? Have you noticed just how much success we have had controlling Israel? Likewise, they have pandered to Saudi Arabia because it is not only wealthy, but the Islamic center of Holiness. And it has lots of oil. When the US had lots of oil, it didn't give a &&&&& about Saudi Arabia. And it was also them the Islamic center of Holiness. I don't believe that is the way to safety. I believe it is allowing the joys of secularism and human rights and freedoms under law in order that superstition and madness from old books is forgotten. How many generations or thousands of years are you allowing for this? You just might not have that long. Particularly if what you say is true. They may have conquered us by then. You want a quick solution? Better bring the nukes. hank you. An abstract question is different than one which relies on verifying premises in actuality. I gave you 3 specific examples, then, when you complained about that, I gave you the question in abstract. Let the record show your refused to answer either way.

To: Solon who wrote (5949)	3/13/2003 4:51:45 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 7689

Such interpretations no longer fly in our culture. Such interpretations no longer fly in most Muslim countries either. Turkey? Tunisia? Iraq? ALL right or wrong is listed in a book. BFD. Every look at the cookbooks in the OT that go into minute detail about how sacrifices to the one Lord should be done? What do they mean now? What shoes you wear...what hand you wipe your bum with. Funny. I've been in that Holy of Holies, Saudi Arabia. Want to know soomething? EVEN THERE, they do not follow all those prescriptions. They take what they want and ignore the rest. Just like all other religions. Islam Nations do not allow any other religions...PERIOD. Ah, the ONLY Muslim nation I know of that actually bans other religions is Saudi Arabia. You got others? But with the new Government it has become more dificult, hasn't it? Have you noticed just how much success we have had controlling Israel? Likewise, they have pandered to Saudi Arabia because it is not only wealthy, but the Islamic center of Holiness. And it has lots of oil. When the US had lots of oil, it didn't give a &&&&& about Saudi Arabia. And it was also them the Islamic center of Holiness. I don't believe that is the way to safety. I believe it is allowing the joys of secularism and human rights and freedoms under law in order that superstition and madness from old books is forgotten. How many generations or thousands of years are you allowing for this? You just might not have that long. Particularly if what you say is true. They may have conquered us by then. You want a quick solution? Better bring the nukes. hank you. An abstract question is different than one which relies on verifying premises in actuality. I gave you 3 specific examples, then, when you complained about that, I gave you the question in abstract. Let the record show your refused to answer either way.

To: Solon who wrote (5949)	3/13/2003 5:19:41 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 7689

False statement: "FREE individuals do not exist under ISLAM."

To: Solon who wrote (5949)	3/13/2003 5:20:29 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 7689

False statement: "Free choice does not exist."