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To: tejek who wrote (164113)3/13/2003 1:53:44 AM
From: d[-_-]b  Respond to of 1574728
 
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To: tejek who wrote (164113)3/13/2003 10:54:26 AM
From: hmaly  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1574728
 
Ted RE... What I find incomprehensible is the growing sense that people are looking at this not as a nasty job that perhaps we must reluctantly do, but as something to be regarded with pleasure, delight, and anticipation. It comes out in the words: “let’s roll”, “let’s do it”, “let’s take ‘em out”.

What seems uncomprehensible is that you seem to have so much compassion for the butcher of Bagdhad, but can't seem to find it in your heart to feel compassion for the thousands dying each month from starvation, the gassed prisoners, and the millions of refugees. Also, the longer we wait, the more time our troops have to wait in the desert, giving Saddam more time to prepare his defenses, thus causing more American deaths, and exposing the troops to suicide bombers etc. The longer we wait, the longer a guy who has caused the death of millions lives in his palaces, stealing money, torturing more and more, and you wonder why would we want to end the utopic paradise you seem to think Iraq has become under Saddam.

How many of you have ever been up to your elbows in human blood? Not the nice blood you get when you cut yourself around the edges, the stringy lumpy stuff you get when a human body comes up against a flying chunk of metal? How many have held a young man in their lap and felt the hiss and gurgle as his lungs filled up with blood? How many have tried to treat a multiple shrapnel case with a first aid kit? Smelled human bodies decomposing? Seen the dead stare in the eyes of children forced to see what no human should ever see?

And your point is. That dying from war wounds is so much more inhumane that starving to death slowly over yrs, being tortured to death in prison, being forced to watch your children tortured so you will rat on someone, being forced to live in a refugee camp to yrs on end. At least this war will have a short time span, limiting the suffering; unless you and the French have your way, in which case, there will be another 10 yrs of suffering, before we decide to end it.

In short, how many of you actually have any idea what happens in a war, when you get behind all that bland technotalk and cable TV coverage?

I have an idea, because I know a bunch of people who have been in it. In fact, my father in law won the silver star in Germany. One of my team mates got killed in Vietnam, and several other were in the war. Yes, war is rough. By the same token, have you ever been tortured in prison, been starved to death, force to never say anything against the gov. Several posts ago, you said you would defend our constitution to death, for your right to free speech. Don't you think a lot of these people would like to have that right also. If one has to die, at least, die for a cause you believe in, not for the likes of Saddam.

There are sometimes reasons why such things must be done; there is never a reason to feel good about it.

And you think there is a good feel to let the people starve, and prisoners being tortured and gassed, all the while Saddam builds up his WMD, potentially to kill us. Why is it that you only have compassion for Saddam and his butchers, but not the innocents he is killing. Does Saddam offer them candy while he is killing them that makes it so more humane. At least the civilians we kill will be unintentional, Saddam kills his on purpose.