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To: zonder who wrote (68633)3/13/2003 9:40:01 AM
From: Sun Tzu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 70976
 
> These were not American citizens...

I should point out that I don't know of any cases of serious abuse involving American citizens. I know for a fact that many of them feel under pressure, but for the most parts that is psychological pressure. The cases I know about are immigrants. But that does not make it any better. Many of these laws are too loose and I know of no parallels that did not lead to serious unintended abuse (as oppose to intended abuse :)

The few cases I mentioned made it to respectable news programs like 60 minutes. One was a Pakistanian truck driver who was under interrogation for 6 months and lost his home because he could not pay his mortgage. Another was an Iranian born Canadian citizen who's a Sr. Oracle consultant in LA. He walked into INS to ask if the rules apply to him as well given that he is a Canadian citizen, he was taken in for his forthcoming and released at the other end of the country days later without even a ticket home or the ability to tell his wife where he is. Another was an Indian born Canadian woman who's passport was torn at the airport on the suspicion that it is forged and was threatened to be put in jail if she insists on calling the Canadian authorities in US. She was shipped to Kuwait and spent days in Airport until Canadian consulate provided her with another passport.

OK these are not citizens and we are not talking about gas chambers, but nor are they harmless little pull over and I find this mode of operation very disturbing. I believe this kind of power should only be given to those who are reluctant to use it. Time and again this administration takes the path of shoot first ask questions later and revels in abuse of power. If this goes on too long it won't be far for citizens to be treated in the same manner.

ST