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To: Elsewhere who wrote (83282)	3/18/2003 7:34:26 AM
From: paul_philp	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Even Chirac is in favor of a 30-day ultimatum now! With some humility of both Bush and Chirac they could have found a compromise. Never. That was the point. Chirac was going to demonstrate that he could stand up to Bush, the 30 day offer came with no disarmament tests or hard deadlines so it was endless. You correct us when we get the culture on your side of the pond wrong so trust Lindy and I on this, the French and Germans helped Bush a lot. Paul

To: Elsewhere who wrote (83282)	3/18/2003 7:55:48 AM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 281500

Media Watchdogs Caught Napping By Leander Kahney wired.com 02:00 AM Mar. 17, 2003 PT <<...In the run up to a conflict in Iraq, foreign news websites are seeing large volumes of traffic from America, as U.S. citizens increasingly seek news coverage about the coming war...>>

To: Elsewhere who wrote (83282)	3/18/2003 10:19:45 AM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 281500

Say what you want, JJ, the overnight polls show 70% of the American People are behind the Prez. They are also pissed at the UN, as my comments earlier pointed out. Our anti-war crowd here is becoming part of a rapidly dwindling minority. They are scratching their heads in disbelief. None of their friends are for the war. :>) >>>> Poll: Support for Bush, War Grows By Richard Morin and Claudia Deane Washington Post Staff Writers Wednesday, March 19, 2003; 8:05 AM Americans have rallied strongly around President Bush and accepted his call for war with Iraq as the only practical way to remove Saddam Hussein and end the threat posed by his weapons of mass destruction, according to a Washington Post-ABC News Poll conducted last night. Seven in 10 said they supported Bush's televised call to go to war without the blessing of the United Nations unless Saddam Hussein and his sons leave Iraq within 48 hours. An equally large majority believe that Bush has done enough to win support from other nations. More than two in three said his policies on Iraq are the right ones, although fewer than half are strongly convinced. The public's preference for a U.N.-endorsed war also has faded into the background following the collapse of efforts by the United States and its allies to win support for a second war resolution in the U.N. Security Council. Three in four disapprove of the way the United Nations has handled the Iraqi crisis, up from slightly more than half three weeks ago.<<<<< REST AT:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44887-2003Mar18.html

To: Elsewhere who wrote (83282)	3/18/2003 12:47:00 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The more likely explanation for the rising support of President Bush is that the US administration has managed to create a sense of inevitability of the Iraq war and the American people are now rallying behind their government and the US Forces. A wise comment, Jochen. I think it's exactly right. The real test of US public opinion will come after the first or second time things go badly. I think the Bush folk are counting on that not happening. And perhaps it won't. No one should wish for it. But I've been struck by the number of generals on US television in the last several weeks who continue to say that nothing goes as planned in war. So one needs backups and backups to backups. Given the glowing optimism of the public statements of the Bush folk about the course of the invasion and post invasion "rebuilding," if the US public believes that, then its support can flee, quickly. And, not only have we seen little of serious plans for the "after the invasion" moment, but we have seen none of the backups and backups to backups. Whatever happens, one of the many things the Bush administration did wrong in this buildup period is not prepare the American public well. We'll just have to wait and see.