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To: abuelita who wrote (14880)	3/18/2003 12:10:53 PM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 89467

Re: <<here's one who agrees with you that diplomacy failed...>> r1: I honestly believe that our President and his Administration have let us all down...Effective diplomacy is like running a marathon and they stopped after the first 5 kilometer mark...It became clear quite some time ago that they were NOT committed to running the race for a peaceful resolution to disarming Iraq. IMO, it will eventually become apparent to mainstream America that bad diplomacy will have a devastating impact -- that sacrificing the UN and NATO was not worth the price of dealing with Iraq militarily right now. Btw, thanks for posting this excellent Globe and Mail article on 'collateral damage'...It makes some good points... globeandmail.com Washington's first collateral damage: its allies By JEFFREY SIMPSON The Globe and Mail Tuesday, March 18, 2003 <<...What a contrast to the Persian Gulf War. In that war, the U.S. enjoyed almost complete international support, except for the Soviets/Russians, Jordanians, Palestinians and a few hard-line Arab states. Front-line Arab states joined that military coalition. So did all the Western Europeans and Canada. Countries such as Japan picked up chunks of the bill. The biggest political challenge faced by the administration of Bush the elder was domestic public opinion. In this war, Americans -- whatever their hesitations and doubts -- are still so traumatized by 9/11 and fearful of future terrorist attacks that they support the President. They accept what no other country's public does -- that Saddam Hussein is linked to terrorists who threaten the United States, and that only a military strike can eliminate this potentially mortal threat. The military campaign will cause casualties aplenty, of course, but even before the fighting begins, the field of U.S. foreign policy is already littered with them...>>

To: abuelita who wrote (14880)	3/19/2003 12:57:41 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

Since the article in the Globe came out, another member of Blair's cabinet quit. Methinks the Brits will shortly have a new government, the first casualty of the war; we're gonna have to wait another 18 months to get a regime change here. Go, England. Rat

To: abuelita who wrote (14880)	3/19/2003 12:57:41 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

Since the article in the Globe came out, another member of Blair's cabinet quit. Methinks the Brits will shortly have a new government, the first casualty of the war; we're gonna have to wait another 18 months to get a regime change here. Go, England. Rat