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To: LindyBill who wrote (83739)	3/19/2003 2:09:26 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

An interesting post, Bill, taking to task my posting for spitefulness, following on the heels of your Wills post. My own take on all this is that the Reps have learned how to do the spiteful thing better than the Dems. The Dems can't hold a candle to the ways in which, spiteful ways in which to use your term, the Reps attacked Clinton when he was in office. As for my views about Bush, you are correct, they have hardened over the past six to eight months. Not surprising given the things his administration has done. The move to the further right that appeared soon after the election, just grows. Your views about Bush critics appear to have hardened as well. Let's hope we can all keep a level head in the next weeks and months. As for the Dems, there is always that line about the wonderful public nature of the fights within the Democratic Party. There is a Will Rogers line which escapes me at the moment. It's the way to have democratic (small d) politics--open debates and arguments. If you are arguing that Daschle is not being politically wise, I'll certainly give you that argument. He should either be much more seriously critical or just move on to other subjects. Half way criticisms leave him open to these charges. And you know the Reps spend 90% of their time looking for these opportunities. Politics.!!

To: LindyBill who wrote (83739)	3/19/2003 2:35:40 PM
From: Rascal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"But you are reacting rather than acting. You really have no program. You may hate Bush's program, but at least he has one." Bush owns the government and has access to resources unimaginable to the Democrats. Don't take a cheap shot like the one above. As I have said before, I have looked at the map in the ME. It is clear that this is the right objective. But it was made so unpalatable. Rascal@ westilldon'tlikethem.com

To: LindyBill who wrote (83739)	3/19/2003 2:57:07 PM
From: carranza2	Respond to of 281500

Daschle determined that he could go overboard in his criticism of the Bush Administration because he has disclaimed any Presidential ambitions. He was unharnessed and unbowdlerized. What you saw from Daschle was the unvarnished man--angry, petulant, a bit out of control. I loved it. C2@theSenatorfromFrance?.com

To: LindyBill who wrote (83739)	3/19/2003 4:20:17 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I think the left has lost it's core, John. I really do. Absolutely. When I was young the left stood for principles, for individual liberties, for values. FDR, Hubert Humphrey, Adlai Stevenson, were men of integrity and principle, even as they accepted the need to work within the political process. But I don't remember any one of them putting down other people the way the left routinely does today, or personalizing their political differences the way the left is doing with Bush. The left has really lost its core values and integrity. Which is sad.