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To: LindyBill who wrote (83789)	3/19/2003 3:11:19 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

What you don't understand, and will never believe, is that they would go berserk if a Republican President acted like that and got caught at it. And demand that he resign and the VP take over. No, I don't believe it either LB. It would look a bit more excusable coming from a Republican, except to a few principled Christians. It's speculation, but I don't believe a purely personal behavior scandal is enough to become a major scandal unless that President is deeply loathed by the opposition. In fact, I think it's true for all presidential scandals. The loathing is a necessary ingredient. Nixon had it. So did Clinton. Reagan did not, which was why Iran-Contra never quite turned into a first rate scandal, though the charge - running US foreign policy via a NSC slush fund without Congressional approval - was clearly an impeachable offence.

To: LindyBill who wrote (83789)	3/19/2003 3:26:18 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 281500

<Clinton couldn't keep his pecker in his pants. The Republicans went berserk, but this was not all Political. They really are hung up on this issue. > Lindy, the ladies kept wanting him to get it out. That's what really rankled the Republicans. Envy. They saw swooning women by the horde and it drove them nuts. Tribal politics is primarily about sex. The Republicans are obviously not very well hung on the issue. That's why Bill Clinton would be an excellent New World Order Viceroy to take over Iraq on behalf of Kofi and King George II. Cool pun eh? Viceroy. I wonder if there will be many shots fired before the Iraqi army has surrendered en masse. It's no problem to accept their surrender. Just tell them to stand at ease pending further orders. A few Islamic Jihad types might need to be disarmed, but most could be left to carry their own gun. They can be reposted at road intersections to maintain order. Would Republicans be able to accept that Bill Clinton be given the job of dealing with the renovation of the UN and Iraq? It would be an excellent bipartisan gesture by King George II, proving the "one mind" of the USA. It would be a highly acceptable move to many politicians around the world. I bet Helen Clark would love it! It would give King George II more votes too as being a real leader rather than just a parochial oil man with Enron cash flow. That would really take the wind out of the opposition's sails. Clinton couldn't turn down such a great opportunity to strut the world stage. Mqurice PS: Republican sexual 'virtues' were also found wanting if you recall. There were some very high profile resignations.

To: LindyBill who wrote (83789)	3/19/2003 3:26:48 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The only thing they went overboard about was his personal morality. That's worth several hoots, Bill. You seem to forget the long run up of "spiteful" comments from the get go. No, if you wish to argue this point, and we shouldn't because it's definitely off topic, you will have to at least ground yourself in the evidence. As for the Reps hung up on personal morality, I think, at least for the furthest right of the party, it's much worse than a hangup, it's a mission. As for the last line, what they would do if a Rep President had an affair, we're unlikely to know. My guess is everyone would scramble to cover it, hide it, get rid of it some way. But once it got out, their base would consider it grounds for something more severe than impeachment. I don't give them credit for it. I think it's one of their shortcomings.