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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (84446)3/21/2003 4:31:05 AM
From: spiral3  Respond to of 281500
 
If I were Bush, I'd start digesting what I am still trying to chew before directing efforts towards Iran.

Don’t worry Sun Tzu, the genie is out of the bottle, stunt like this only works once, or as you said, the problem is putting the genie back in the bottle before the genie finds it’s way to Iran. Just like shock and awe, I hope you won’t be disappointed. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire, especially when it comes to the oil. The thing is it would be nice to get a camera in some of those bombs, has to be a very fancy one so that we can see who exactly we’re hitting, this seems to be a specific problem right now.



To: Sun Tzu who wrote (84446)3/21/2003 8:29:20 AM
From: michael97123  Respond to of 281500
 
"If I were Bush, I'd start digesting what I am still trying to chew before directing efforts towards Iran."

Sun,
I suspect he is. I certainly dont know what the post-iraq strategy will look like. Large wars with large casualties(NK and Iran) are not in the plans, i believe. With 250k american soldiers in a pacified iraq, assuming thats the way it breaks, I would think the pressure would be on Syria to rein in hizbollah, free lebanon, and strike their deal with israel. Iraq pacified, syria made reasonable, Israel and Palestine brought kicking and screaming to the peace table seems to me to be the policy. If it is, how do you think iran reacts both internally and externally? Interesting times we live in to say the least. I hope you are well. mike



To: Sun Tzu who wrote (84446)3/21/2003 9:12:13 AM
From: JohnM  Respond to of 281500
 
Thanks for the thoughtful post.



To: Sun Tzu who wrote (84446)3/21/2003 10:43:15 AM
From: Jacob Snyder  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
thanks, Sun Tzu. That's why I post here, to get well-informed and well-reasoned responses like your post.

The Turks seem to do everything possible, to harm our war effort. They kept 60,000 of our troops out of the war, by stringing us along and then saying no at the last possible moment. Now, they are doing the same thing with 2 aircraft carriers, not allowing overflight or refueling, but stringing along negotiations, so our assets stay out of position.

The Turks have moved from "strategic ally" to "tactical ally" to "independant regional power playing their own game". It would be a serious mistake, to agree to (any more of) their soldiers going into Iraq. It will hugely complicate our post-war plans. I'd almost prefer to have Iranian soldiers in Iraq, than the Turks. The Iranians would be easier to push out, later.



To: Sun Tzu who wrote (84446)3/21/2003 1:39:43 PM
From: FaultLine  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hello Sun Tzu,

These guys may be ruthless, and to the western eye unsophisticated, but they are cunning, they are masters of directing public emotions (in many countries) to their cause, and most of all they have no fear of whatever US could do.

fine, fine post. Thank you for your thoughtful remarks.

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Best regards,
--ken/fl