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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (154634)3/22/2003 8:36:04 PM
From: Oeconomicus  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 164684
 
He said that the British had control of iraq prior to Saddam Hussein and they wanted to steal the oil, and now the Americans want the same thing.

And you don't think his assumptions about the motives behind US policy have anything to do with his "economic progress" defense of Saddam's regime?

and they cut the call off prematurely.

What is your basis for this claim? ABC news has given plenty of air time to anti-Bush commentary, including incoherent protestors and ABC reporters seeking out Iraqis to counter the images of liberated Iraqis tearing down posters of Saddam. Peter Jennings has been "objective" to a fault.

... it seems to me the iraqis are putting up more of a fight than we were led to believe they would...

And Saddam expects that a few scary images on the TV screen and a few reports of American casualties will be enough to turn US public sentiment against the war and against Bush. It won't, excepting a few (like you, apparently) who don't understand what American soldiers DO understand - war is risky, but sometimes necessary.



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (154634)3/23/2003 12:56:09 AM
From: Victor Lazlo  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 164684
 
British had control of Iraq prior to Saddam? From this history, it looks like nothing of the sort. Maybe peter jennings cut that 'professor' off because he had his facts wrong.

July 14: Military coup, led by the general Karim Kassem, where the king, the crown prince and the prime minister were killed.
July 15: A new government is proclaimed, and the Arab Union with Jordan is declared dissolved, and Iraq is to work for close relations with the United Arab Republic, which was established by Egypt and Syria earlier this year. Kassem acts to keep up Western confidence by not interfering with the oil production.
1959: Iraq withdraws from the Baghdad Pact.
1960: Iraq makes claims on Kuwait, which receives its independence this year.
1963 February 8: Kassem is overthrown by a group of officers, mainly from the Ba'th Party. Abdul Salam Arif becomes the new president.
1966 April 13: President Arif dies, and is followed by his brother Abdul Rahman Arif.
1967: Iraq acts to make relations with the Western powers worse, following the Six-Day War.
1968 July 17: Arif is overthrown, and Ahmed Hassan al-Bakr becomes the new president. Iraq follows a politics of orientation away from the West, with improved relations with the Soviet Union.
1970: After years of unrest, the Iraqi governments agrees to form an autonomous Kurdish region, and Kurds are let into the cabinet.
1971: Borders to Jordan are closed, as a protest to Jordan's attemt to curb PLO.
1972: Nationalization of the oil industry starts.
1974 March: Fights between government forces and Kurdish groups. The Kurds received aid from Iran. Kurdish cities like Zakho and Qalaat Diza are razed to the ground, and hundreds of thousands of Kurds flee the cities.
1975: Settlement of border disputes with Iran, makes Iran stop aid to the Kurds, and the revolt is crushed.
1979 June: President Bakr is stripped of all positions and put in house arrest. Saddam Hussayn becomes new president.
— August: About 400 members of the ruling Ba'th Party are said to have been executed, by the command of the new president.
— Unrest among Kurds, inspired by unrest in Iran, after the Islamic revolution there. Religious animosities in Iraq are linked to what is happening in Iran. Relations between the two countries are worsened.
1980 September 17: The agreement on Iraqi/Iranian borders from 1975 is declared null and void by Saddam, who claims the whole Shatt el-Arab, a small, but important and rich landscape.
September 22: Iraq invades Iran, and gets quickly control over Iranian land.
1981: Israelis bombs a nuclear reactor outside Baghdad.
1982: Counter offensive from Iran, reclaiming much of the land occupied by Iraq.
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