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To: lurqer who wrote (15266)3/23/2003 2:04:28 AM
From: Jim Willie CB  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 89467
 
my guess is we will vastly underestimate the Kurd complexity
we probably overlook that Kurds have at least three shades
the press has totally missed the Turkey-Kurd angle to the US disappointment of Turkish support

soon, we will be bogged inside Baghdad and facing an eruption in Kirkuk
USForces might actually face off with Turkish forces
with Iranian forces watching over their shoulder

welcome to the start of World War III
THE ISLAMIC WAR OVER ARAB OIL

this war is about three things:

1. securing oil during upcoming Arab boycott of USA
2. securing military airbases after upcoming civil violence inside Saudi Arabia, and lost rights at Prince Sultan AFB
3. securing petro-dollars from diversion in a bigger way to euros

and maybe 4. stopping spread of weapons of mass destruction

IGNORANT AMERICANS BOUGHT HOOKLINE & SINKER THE W.M.D. BULLSHIT
oil, airbases, dollar -- THE KEYS

/ jim



To: lurqer who wrote (15266)3/23/2003 4:22:48 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 89467
 
In the thick of 'shock and awe'

By ROBERT FISK
BRITISH JOURNALIST
Saturday, March 22, 2003

BAGHDAD -- Saddam Hussein's main presidential palace, a great rampart of a building 20 stories high, simply exploded in front of me -- a caldron of fire, a 100-foot sheet of flame and a sound that had my ears singing for an hour after. The entire, massively buttressed edifice shuddered under the impact. Then four more cruise missiles came in.

It is the heaviest bombing Baghdad has suffered in more than 20 years of war. All across the city last night, massive explosions shook the ground.

To my right, the Ministry of Armaments Procurement -- looking much like the facade of the Pentagon -- coughed fire as five missiles crashed into the concrete.

In an operation officially intended to create "shock and awe," shock was hardly the word for it. The few Iraqis in the streets around me -- no friends of Saddam I would suspect -- cursed under their breath.

From high-rise buildings, shops and homes came the thunder of crashing glass as the shock waves swept across the Tigris River in both directions.

Minute after minute the missiles came in. Many Iraqis had watched -- as I had -- television film of those ominous B-52 bombers taking off from Britain only six hours earlier. Like me, they had noted the time, added three hours for Iraqi time in front of London and guessed that, at around 9 p.m., the terror would begin. The B-52s, almost certainly firing from outside Iraqi airspace, were dead on time.

Police cars drove through the streets, loudspeakers ordering pedestrians to take shelter or hide under cover of tall buildings.

Much good did it do. Crouching next to a block of shops on the opposite side of the river, I narrowly missed the shower of glass that came cascading down from the upper windows as the shock waves slammed into them.

Along the streets a few Iraqis could be seen staring from balconies, shards of broken glass around them. Each time one of the great golden bubbles of fire burst across the city, they ducked inside before the blast wave reached them. At one point, as I stood beneath the trees on the corniche, a wave of cruise missiles passed low overhead, the shriek of their passage almost as devastating as the explosions that were to follow.

How does one describe this outside the language of a military report, the definition of the color, the decibels of the explosions? When the cruise missiles came in, it sounded as if someone was ripping huge curtains of silk in the sky and the blast waves became a kind of frightening counterpoint to the flames.

There is something anarchic about all human beings, about their reaction to violence. The Iraqis around me stood and watched, as I did, at huge tongues of flame bursting from the upper stories of Saddam's palace, reaching high into the sky. Strangely, the electricity grid continued to operate and around us the traffic lights continued to move between red and green. Billboards moved in the breeze of the shock waves and floodlights continued to blaze on public buildings. Above us we could see the massive curtains of smoke beginning to move over Baghdad, white from the explosions, black from the burning targets.

How could one resist it? How could the Iraqis ever believe with their broken technology, their debilitating 12 years of sanctions, that they could defeat the computers of the missiles and aircraft? It was the same old story: irresistible, unquestionable power.

Well yes, one could say, could one attack a more appropriate regime? But that is not quite the point. For the message of last night's raid was the same as that of Thursday's raid, that of all the raids in the hours to come: that the United States must be obeyed. That the European Union, United Nations, NATO -- nothing -- must stand in its way. Indeed can stand in its way.

No doubt this morning the Iraqi minister of information will address us all again and insist that Iraq will prevail. We shall see. But many Iraqis are now asking an obvious question: How many days? Not because they want the Americans or the British in Baghdad, though they may profoundly wish it. But because they want this violence to end, which, when you think of it, is exactly why these raids took place.

Reports were coming in last night of civilians killed in the raids -- which, given the intensity of the cruise missile attacks -- is not surprising. Another target turned out to be the vast Rashid military barracks, perhaps the largest in Iraq.

But the symbolic center of this raid was intended to be Saddam's main palace, with its villas, fountains, porticos and gardens. And, sure enough, the flames licking across the facade of the palace last night looked very much like a funeral pyre.
____________________________________

Robert Fisk is a writer for The Independent, a general-circulation newspaper published in Great Britain.

seattlepi.nwsource.com



To: lurqer who wrote (15266)3/24/2003 8:32:55 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
How to Save Brand America

As Iraqis quake in justified terror, Americans fret about the threat to their 'values' and wonder why they are so widely disliked. Here one friend of America lists the reasons... and the remedy

by Henry Porter
Published on Sunday, March 23, 2003 by the Observer/UK
commondreams.org

On Friday evening a spokesman from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences in Los Angeles explained that it was important to continue with a scaled-down Oscar ceremony 'when American values were under attack'. As his statement was relayed by the BBC we learned that American B52s had dropped their payload over Iraq and that hundreds of cruise missiles were striking at Baghdad. The TV screen began to pulse with livid blooms from the explosions.

I can't have been the only one to wonder how the man from the Academy had produced the classic response of victimhood when at that very moment American values were being unambiguously asserted at the heart of Saddam's regime. That night's bombing will be remembered in the Arab world for a generation or more.

No one in the Middle East can possibly fail to take the lesson about the reach and precision of US military might, let alone the determination to use it. But once the hostilities are over in Iraq, the greatest challenge to the American Imperium is to replace some of the fear that the bombing has inspired with a reputation for fairness and doing what it has promised in Iraq and Palestine.

Last year, before Bush had decided to act on Iraq, the White House commissioned a report from advertising and media executives on the way America was seen in the world. The report shook Bush. Even America's allies characterized the US as arrogant, self-absorbed and hypocritical. Bush reacted by setting up an office of global communications in the White House, removing the responsibility for selling 'Brand America' from the State department. It duly began work last autumn.

If selling the US presented problems last year, the task is vastly more difficult today. A country which stands for individual freedom and whose people are so eager to do the right thing - even though, as Churchill observed, they may explore all other options beforehand - is now considered by millions to be halfway between behemoth and pariah.

Americans are amazed by the slide in their standing, particularly after the attacks of 9/11. Last year Congressman named Henry Hyde asked: 'How is it that a country that invented Hollywood and Madison Avenue has allowed such a destructive and parodied image of itself to become the intellectual coin of the realm?'

The short answer to this is that Hollywood and Madison Avenue are used to sell the American dream to Americans and a once-receptive audience outside the US. They are not remotely equipped to address the deep rifts in policy and purpose which have opened up between the United States and the rest of the world. Like it or not, America is seen as greedy and domineering, and this is a dangerous development for all those who believe that liberal democracy depends on America's success and acceptance in the world.

In the two-and-half years since Bush came to power after a disputed Florida count involving just 170,000 unreadable ballot papers, attitudes have greatly sharpened, partly because Bush's mandate remained unconvincing but also because of the unapologetic nature of his regime. The exercise of power came to the new administration as second nature.

Many of its members - Cheney, Ashcroft, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz - were veterans of up to four previous Republican administrations. In exile they had seized the idea - in a way Clinton never chose to - that the power of the US, financially, technologically and militarily, could and should be deployed to consolidate American dominance in the twenty-first century.

At the same time, Bush seemed a second-rate figure and his unshakeable self-satisfaction was hard to attribute to any achievement or intellectual distinction. Instead, he appeared to be the passive beneficiary of his father's career. And George Junior seemed to be a man so untroubled by his actions that he was in bed and asleep 45 minutes after addressing the nation on TV this week. To many this was the action of a man too breezily unimaginative to envisage the bombardment that would take place over Baghdad. Unfair maybe, but that is how it looked.

Another characteristic of the administration which is responsible for the new levels of anti-Americanism is that it not only disdains meaningful consultation with lesser powers, it does not even bother to go through the motions. When Roosevelt returned from Yalta he stopped off in Egypt to consult and explain. When America was building the alliance for the 1991 Gulf war, Secretary of State James Baker toured the Middle East to reassure Turkey and its Arab neighbors. Bush, on the other hand, has no knowledge of the Middle East and his Secretary of State Colin Powell has mostly remained in Washington and New York these past months to make sure that Rumsfeld, Cheney and Wolfowitz didn't make a grab for US foreign policy.

But it would be wrong to blame Bush and co for America's reputation today. Since the collapse of the Berlin Wall and the victory of the 1991 Gulf war there has been a gradual increase in what historian and author Margaret Macmillan, in her book, Peacemakers , calls 'American exceptionalism'.

'Faith in their own exceptionalism,' she writes, 'has sometimes led to a certain obtuseness on the part of Americans, a tendency to preach at other nations rather than listen to them, a tendency to assume that American motives are pure where those of others are not.'

The habit of exceptionalism came to the fore during the Clinton era when despite a seemingly amenable diplomatic stance there were many occasions when America opted out. It was of course Clinton's government that failed to sign a treaty banning landmines because US personnel might be compromised in the Korean demilitarized zone. Clinton also refused to ratify the treaty to set up the International Criminal Court in Rome. Why? Because America believes its international responsibilities as chief peacekeeper and enforcer placed its citizens at unusual risk of prosecution.

In his first months of the Bush presidency the US opted out the Kyoto agreement to limit carbon emissions and the Anti-Ballistic Missiles treaty on the grounds that it wanted to develop a missile defense system. Last summer plans to provide the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention with inspection powers were blocked by the Bush administration - which, given the pretext for going to war on Iraq, certainly seems a bit rich.

Across a broad range of activities America either asserted its right to special privileges or simply declared itself to be above the law. The most starkly hypocritical example was when in March last year the free trade enthusiasts of the Republican administration capitulated to demands by US steel makers to impose tough new tariffs on steel imports. At the same time America, as a country which strongly advocated a plan to reduce subsidies and tariffs in farming around the world, insisted on its right to give $100 billion in subsidies to its own farmers.

It has become clear that America has been shrewdly manipulating many agendas in its own interests. Some of these initiatives are so obscure or technical that they never reach the public consciousness, but they are important nonetheless.

For instance, in January last year Professor Robert Hunter Wade of the London School of Economics pointed out that the US had manipulated 'the World Trade Organization to commit to a General Agreement on Trade in Services that will facilitate a global market in private health care, welfare, pensions, education and water, supplied - naturally - by US companies, and which will undermine political support for universal access to social services in developing countries'.

Later in the same article he says: 'Globalization and global supervisory organizations enable the United States to harness the rest of the world to its own rhythms and structures.'

In other words, we are dancing to the American tune, probably much more than any of us in the cushioned West appreciate. In the developing world, however, there is a strong yet ill-defined sense that living standards are kept low in order to allow Americans to consume far more than they actually produce.

It would be unfair to reach these harsh conclusions without pointing out that America does provide much aid and expertise to the developing world and pours billions of dollars into peacekeeping operations. Still there is a gathering conviction that America is, to use the word of the moment, in state of persistent non-compliance on too many protocols, agreements, treaties and conventions to number. And that cannot be a good thing for the reputation of the US, nor an impression easily reversed by a few eager young men selling Brand America.

To a fond outsider like myself, America has become perplexingly inconsistent. Though this administration talks up democratic values it actively supports dictatorships in Pakistan and central Asia, and wobbled when a democratically elected government was threatened with a coup in Venezuela. Too often the Bush government's principles are forgotten in the cause of political expedience. And this has been true during the fight against terrorism at home where suspects have been arrested and isolated from the normal judicial process without a qualm.

I've been amazed how quickly Americans have gone along with the loss of treasured and symbolic rights and saddened that the American media has not done more to oppose the authorities.

It is difficult to overestimate the shock that 9/11 delivered to the American psyche. Security has become a national obsession. It seems odd to the outside world that while US troops were being deployed in the Gulf, Americans were stocking up on bottled water and tape to seal their homes from chemical weapons attacks. There is something rather panicky and self-obsessed about the US today and it is in this atmosphere that any challenge to the government or security agencies is immediately classed as unpatriotic.

Americans will bridle at these observations, but as Philip Roth pointed out in October, since 9/11 they have indulged in 'an orgy of national narcissism and a gratuitous victim mentality which is repugnant'.

Now the bombs have rained on Baghdad it is time for America to stop worrying about its values being under attack and to re-engage with the world, showing the openness and generosity that was once so admired. That is the only way to reinvigorate Brand America.
________________________________________

· Empire State, a novel by Henry Porter about a US/UK counter-terrorist operation, is published by Orion in September.

© Guardian Newspapers Limited 2003



To: lurqer who wrote (15266)3/24/2003 10:59:46 AM
From: abuelita  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 89467
 
More at stake in northern Iraq

Sooner or later, Washington will have to choose between Turkey and the Kurds, says analyst ANDRÉ GEROLYMATOS

As if it didn't have enough to worry about, the Bush administration is rapidly having to come to terms with the psychology of the bazaar in its negotiations with the Turks and Kurds over waging war in northern Iraq. Caught between two of their ostensible allies (who fear and loathe each other), the outcome of this bargaining could have dire consequences for the future of the region.

Already, the United States has had to endure the frustration of having its invasion plans limited by the unexpected refusal of Turkey's government to allow U.S. troops on its soil. Then it was reduced to dickering over the terms by which Turkish troops might or might not join in the fighting in northern Iraq.

(An early casualty of this bargaining was the recent failure of efforts to reunify Cyprus, an effort that became intertwined with American and Turkish negotiations over the Kurdish issue. Despite indications a deal was done, Turkey's military, it seems, wouldn't part with its control over the northern part of the divided Mediterranean island unless it was promised a piece of the action in northern Iraq.)

During the Cold War, the United States viewed Turkey as critical to protecting NATO's southeastern flank. As such, Washington was willing to sacrifice Cypriot interests, among other things, to satisfy Ankara. Time after time, efforts to reunify the island were abandoned for the sake of U.S. and NATO security concerns.

U.S. deference to Turkey continued with the advance of the war on Iraq. In December, Washington practically bullied the Europeans into giving the Turks a date to begin talks concerning their admission to the European Union. Consequently, the Bush administration was stunned when the Turkish Parliament earlier this month turned down the American request to move 62,000 U.S. troops through Turkey on their way to Iraq. The troops were vital to opening up a northern front against Iraq and protecting their biggest local supporters -- the Kurds.

Nothing in this region, however, comes without a price. When the Americans requested Turkish support in the war against Iraq, the government in Ankara presented two shopping lists to Washington -- one overt and the other confidential. Openly, Ankara demanded $15-billion (U.S.) in direct aid and loan guarantees, a price the Bush administration was willing to pay.

Secretly, however, Ankara also insisted that the Turkish army accompany the U.S. forces into northern Iraq. Furthermore, the Turks demanded the right to establish a military zone in the predominantly Kurdish area.

While wanting Turkish support on the one hand, Washington can't afford to alienate Iraq's Kurds, whose support lends great legitimacy to its attack on Iraq. And the Kurds want no part of a Turkish force in their midst.

Turkey claims its interests in northern Iraq are purely humanitarian. The war will generate hundreds of thousands of refugees, who will seek a safe haven in Turkey. Accordingly, Ankara proposed to use the Turkish army only to stem the flood of refugees by providing aid to the victims of war inside northern Iraq.

Nonsense, say the Kurds, who fear the Turks' real intent in entering their territory would be to suppress Kurdish autonomy. News of Turkey's plans last week generated talk among the Kurds of forming human chains to prevent the movement of Turkish military convoys. Regardless of the advantages of the deployment of U.S. troops in Turkey, or the innocence of Turkish motives, there is a very real possibility that the presence of Turkish units among the predominantly Kurdish population of northern Iraq would result in armed clashes between Turks and the Kurds.

Which is why Washington ultimately balked at Ankara's demands, and Turkey chose not to allow the deployment of U.S. troops. The about-face by the Turkish political and military leadership was less a byproduct of Turkish parliamentary democracy than the result of the failure of the Americans to give the Turks a free hand in northern Iraq.

The haggling continues, even as the war is under way. A U.S. envoy was due to arrive in Ankara today for talks with government leaders and U.S. President George W. Bush said yesterday he had made it very clear to Turkey that its troops were not to enter northern Iraq unilaterally.

Ankara announced Friday that while it would permit U.S. military flights to traverse Turkish airspace, it also reserves the right to send Turkish troops into northern Iraq for Turkey's own security. Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul noted that following the 1991 war in the Persian Gulf, "a vacuum was formed in northern Iraq and that vacuum became practically a camp for terrorist activity. This time, we do not want such a vacuum."

The government denied weekend reports, however, that it already has sent in troops.

For its part, Ankara believes it must, at all cost, prevent the creation of a Kurdish state on its border. That policy is driving all others.

Like Syria and Iran, Turkey is home to a large Kurdish population that has ambitions of its own. Ankara neither wants to yield any territory to the creation of a new Kurdish homeland, nor to have to face the possibility of a renewed armed uprising, possibly backed by autonomous Kurds in Iraq.

Undoubtedly, the haggling will go on until the outcome of the war shifts the advantage to the United States or to Turkey, while the fate of the Kurds hangs in the balance.

The United States is betting on a short war, but if the Iraqi army fights back and the conflict drags on, pressure will build to work with Turkey in opening a northern front, whatever the Kurds may think. The Bush administration is less concerned with Kurdish fears or Turkish anxieties than with defeating Saddam Hussein.

Toward this goal, the United States is faced with the exquisite dilemma of whether to placate the Turks or the Kurds.

André Gerolymatos, who holds the Hellenic Studies Chair at Simon Fraser University, is author of The Balkan Wars.

globeandmail.com