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To: Ilaine who wrote (85604)3/24/2003 9:33:25 AM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
CB,
No intent on my part to impugn Jacobs patriotism. As a practicing neocon, I could take what he said as impugning mine but i dont believe that to be the case. I have known him for some time and like him very much. He is a fine person. We have a profound disagreement on this issue. It's what i consider to be his naivite about the nature of the threat that concerns me. If i am wrong, we will have fought an unnecessary war. If he is wrong, there could be crater one day in where i am typing now. This has little to do about "imperialism" and much ado about the profound threat terrorism poses. But i do respect you CB and i will pm jacob, just in case he misinterpets my post. I know sometimes my posts seem to have a sharp edge. Mike



To: Ilaine who wrote (85604)3/24/2003 12:41:07 PM
From: Jacob Snyder  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
<I think Jacob is wrong to impugn the patriotism of others>

Sorry if I seemed to be doing that, that was not my intent. The think the NeoCons, and the Hawks in general, are all sincere patriots and want the best for their country.

But I consider myself, also, to be a patriot. And I think the anti-war position is grounded in the values the Republic was founded on.

So, I'm not saying the prowar position in unpatriotic. I'm saying the antiwar position (in the U.S. at least) is patriotic also. And I am not going to concede this ground (patriotism) to the Hawks, who want to wrap themselves in the flag. It's my flag too, and you can't hog it for yourself. You'll have to share.