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To: JustTradeEm who wrote (86890)	3/27/2003 8:35:50 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

I can still make the case for being against the war either as a leftist or a rightist. Much of it has to do with LBJ, whose admin lied thru its teeth and sacrificed american life so as to injure the democratic party in the next election. And then of course we didnt fight to win. 12 years 58,000 dead as opposed to 7 days and 20 dead. There is no reason at all to compare the two so i am comfortable with that. What upsets me most that back then, those of us in opposition, even moderates like me, disrespected our armed forces. And in a sense draftees would certainly less be culpable that all volunteer forces. I will drop this, it gives me a headache and i am just too old to rehash this again. Mike PS Total gridlock in midtown manhattan as the NYPD, in a code orange defense of a threatened city, has to divert itself to rid the streets of these demonstrators. Apparently the left has forgotten 9/11 altogether.

To: JustTradeEm who wrote (86890)	3/27/2003 8:36:26 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I was against the war in Vietnam because I thought it was being fought stupidly. Now that I watch the news media covering Iraq I question the media more than the government.

To: JustTradeEm who wrote (86890)	3/27/2003 8:41:41 AM
From: E.J. Neitz Jr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Anti-war demonstrators filled Madison Avenue in New York City.......(heard this from one of the commentators--will research to find the articles and facts)...this demonstration was pre World War II and the very very massive demonstrations were against US involvement against Nazi Germany. In the beginning apparently, there were massive demonstrations supporting a hands off policy. Germany...far away...not a threat to the US etc. My point is this...it is normal and natural not to want war. I think what we are seeing with today's anti war demonstrators has very little to do with Iraq....it is very personal to these people....we as a nation are soft. Young boys grow up today protected by their mommies from playing with toy guns, and those that do must have a red cap in the end. For the past decade american mothers are freaked out with their kids hearing or seeing violence. The mothers and fathers(most fathers are now of an age they didnt have to worry about the draft) are concerned this this war may go out of control or expand and the need for additional troops will bring back the draft....and involve their precious children. Many of the grandparents today treat their grandchildren far differently that the grandparenting in the past...more personnaly involved with their grandchildren. My point....the anti-war demonstrations have little to do with the country of Iraq and more to do with personal fear for their precious children and grandchildren. My personal point of view is just clean it up now, so the childrn of tomorrow don't have to handle a bigger threat. Just another point of view.