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To: JohnM who wrote (86950)3/27/2003 11:58:23 AM
From: Jacob Snyder  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
"anti-semitism, anti-capitalism, and anti-Americanism' as a bundle

My favorite new epithet is "cheese-eating surrender monkey."

What I find most interesting, is that anti-semitism has been added to the list. Jews are, for the first time ever in their national history (and I don't mean since 1948, I mean since 1000 BC), standing in a position of power on the global stage. There has been a lot of mythology about Jewish power, Elders of Zion and so on. But the reality was, at best, Jews were tactical allies only, of those who held real power in the world. Jews were always held at arms length, never really trusted, used for their money and skills, and frequently discarded after use.

Today, Jews for the first time ever, are part of the permanent In Group. It is fascinating, to watch the ideological rapprochement, between the fundamentalist Christians (whose anti-semitism was always just beneath the surface) and the Jews.



To: JohnM who wrote (86950)3/27/2003 12:42:02 PM
From: carranza2  Respond to of 281500
 
I much prefer The Great Curmudgeon, G. K. Chesterton, to Twain for pithy quotes. I can imagine a conversation between Lewis and Chesterton would have been a real treat.

Here are his views on the reasons for the difference between Islam's ideals and some of its adherents' practices:

>> Now a man preaching what he thinks is a platitude is far more intolerant than a man preaching what he admits is a paradox. It was exactly because it seemed self-evident, to Moslems as to Bolshevists, that their simple creed was suited to everybody, that they wished in that particular sweeping fashion to impose it on everybody. It was because Islam was broad that Moslems were narrow. And because it was not a hard religion it was a heavy rule. Because it was without a self-correcting complexity, it allowed of those simple and masculine but mostly rather dangerous appetites that show themselves in a chieftain or a lord. As it had the simplest sort of religion, monotheism, so it had the simplest sort of government, monarchy. There was exactly the same direct spirit in its despotism as in its deism. The Code, the Common Law, the give and take of charters and chivalric vows, did not grow in that golden desert. The great sun was in the sky and the great Saladin was in his tent, and he must be obeyed unless he were assassinated. Those who complain of our creeds as elaborate often forget that the elaborate Western creeds have produced the elaborate Western constitutions; and that they are elaborate because they are emancipated." ("The Fall of Chivalry" The New Jerusalem)