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To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (3813)3/27/2003 5:06:10 PM
From: gold$10k  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 5423
 
JW,

Yes, decade... my long term scenario calls for a numerical (non-inflation adjusted) stock market bottom in the fall of 2006.

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To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (3813)3/28/2003 9:13:18 AM
From: 4figureau  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 5423
 
American Airlines Considers Bankruptcy
Thursday March 27, 5:00 pm ET
By Kathy Fieweger

CHICAGO (Reuters) - American Airlines has stepped up talks to secure about $1.5 billion of financing for possible bankruptcy, and may file under Chapter 11 as early as next week, sources familiar with the matter said on Thursday.

The AMR Corp. (NYSE:AMR - News) unit is considering an early filing to preserve cash, which is dwindling due to lower bookings since the start of the Iraq war, the sources said.

"Bookings are terrible," a banking industry source said. "It's a liquidity imperative to file as soon as possible."

Another banking industry source said the airline had given itself until March 31 to reach deals with unions, lessors and other groups. "Timing-wise, that's not going to happen," said the source, who declined to be named.

The latest public figure on AMR's cash was $2.7 billion at the end of 2002, of which $775 million was restricted. Since then, bookings have softened.

Shares of AMR, which have lost 93 percent of their value since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, closed 18 percent lower on the news of the potential filing, dropping 40 cents on the New York Stock Exchange (News - Websites) to $1.79.

American spokesman Todd Burke said speculation on a bankruptcy filing has been rampant for weeks, adding the airline was doing everything possible to avoid such a move including face-to-face negotiations with unions.

A Chapter 11 filing would be the largest ever in global aviation history, topping that of rival United in December.

COSTS COMING DOWN

American, the world's biggest airline, also has been watching developments at No. 2 carrier UAL Corp.'s (NYSE:UAL - News) United Airlines closely as its court-mediated restructuring pressures competitors to match airfares and cost cuts.

If United were close to liquidating, American could possibly have held off, but that does not appear to be happening. "It's not like United's going to run out of cash next week," the second banking industry source said.

In fact, United and its pilots on Thursday announced a tentative agreement on a long-term concession package to be voted on by rank-and-file by April 11.

At the same time, the U.S. government is considering more aid to the airline industry, but details are unknown.

The sources said banks likely to be part of the AMR debtor-in-possession financing include Citibank (NYSE:C - News) as the lead, J.P. Morgan Chase (NYSE:JPM - News) and perhaps including CIT Group (NYSE:CIT - News) and General Electric (NYSE:GE - News) Capital.

WATCHING RIVALS

AMR, based in Fort Worth, Texas, is in around-the-clock discussions with unions to try to cut annual structural costs by $4 billion. That includes $1.8 billion savings from pay, benefit and work rule savings.

Its Allied Pilots Association said on Wednesday the board was likely to vote on a deal by the end of the month. But a potential snag came when the union said American asked to furlough an additional 1,000 pilots.

"It appears to us to be bad-faith negotiations," the union said in a statement on Wednesday. The APA represents about 13,500 pilots at American and has been asked to come up with $660 million in annual cost savings.

American on Thursday reiterated its position the furloughs were not new numbers and that the airline has not changed its stated goal of getting $1.8 billion in concessions.

APA spokesman Gregg Overman said a move to plan for an early bankruptcy filing was "a precautionary, contingency plan on the part of AMR based on the talks with the unions ... If the process ends there, apparently, there are alternatives in place." Another union, the Transport Workers Union, said labor groups and American were not close to agreements.

HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH?

Faced with that, the airline is questioning whether concession packages will be enough to position AMR for the long term, several sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.

American lost a record $3.5 billion in 2002. In its early probes for debtor-in-possession financing, the airline started out with requests for about $2 billion, just as United had, bankers said.

But with less attractive collateral than United Airlines offered, American's package is likely to be closer to $1.5 billion, they said, which is what United ended up securing.

Citibank, which has American's frequent flyer credit card business, was initially asked to put up $1 billion in debtor-in-possession financing, backed by the credit card assets, sources said. The card is the largest such "affinity" card in the business.

biz.yahoo.com



To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (3813)3/28/2003 9:17:33 AM
From: 4figureau  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 5423
 
War Spurs Fears of Another Recession


By Paul Blustein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, March 28, 2003; Page E01

Worries are mounting among economists that a drawn-out war in Iraq could lead to recessions in the United States and overseas.

"The economy is paralyzed. Businesses are reducing payrolls and investments, and consumers are very cautious," said Mark M. Zandi, chief economist at Economy.com Inc., a West Chester, Pa., research firm. "If the conflict wears on for three months, we'll be in full-blown recession."

It would be a "debilitating" downturn, Zandi said, because of the weakness simultaneously besetting many of the world's other wealthy nations, including Japan, Germany, France and Italy. "We can't count on anyone to help us out," he said.

Not all economists take such a gloomy view, and financial markets around the world have retreated only part of the way from the powerful rallies that were triggered by early signs of a quick allied victory. The Dow Jones industrial average, which rose 997 points in the eight trading days ending last Friday, is down 320 points since indications of a tougher war began surfacing over the weekend; the Dow closed yesterday at 8201.45, down 28.43.

European share prices, which surged nearly 21 percent after the start of the coalition attack, are off about 5.2 percent so far this week, based on a Dow Jones index of major European stocks.

But some analysts fear that the dangers to the economy stemming from the war may be greater than investors seem to think -- a view the International Monetary Fund expressed yesterday in unusually blunt terms.

"While markets may have priced in a short and decisive war," the IMF said in a report on global financial conditions, they "may have not yet focused on the possibility that uncertainty could persist for some time" about risks including "continued geopolitical instability and tangible threats of terrorism." Persistent uncertainty may "reinforce the headwind against global economic recovery," the report said.

In a like vein, the fund's managing director, Horst Koehler, cautioned in a German magazine interview published this week that "a global economic recession cannot be ruled out" if the war drags on.

The logic behind such worries is relatively simple: The world's major economies have been sluggish for some months, and although that may be partly attributable to the lingering effects of the bursting of the stock market bubble, nervousness about the ramifications of the war is undoubtedly contributing to the low level of consumer confidence, a falloff in home sales, and reluctance among corporations to invest in plants and equipment.

So although a swift collapse of the Iraqi regime might have lifted the spirits of consumers and businesses substantially, a long war would mean that "they will stay hunkered down," which would "hit economies that are already vulnerable to recession," said Allen Sinai, chief global economist at Decision Economics Inc. He agreed with Zandi that the economy would slump "if the war goes on to midyear," as did Donald H. Straszheim, president of Straszheim Global Advisors Inc., who said, "If we're still bogged down three months from now, I would not be at all surprised to find us back into recession."

Some of the most dreadful threats to the global economy posed by the war have not materialized, in particular the prospect that President Saddam Hussein's troops would sabotage Iraq's vast oil fields or destroy petroleum facilities in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. Crude oil prices have risen sharply in recent days, jumping more than 6 percent yesterday, to $30.37 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange, but some analysts suggested that such movements were unlikely to be a major economic factor.

"Articles highlighting rising oil prices and their correlation with a coming recession need at least partial retraction, in our view, now that the oil price, at its recent low, was just 4 percent greater than a year ago," Steven Wieting, an economist at Salomon Smith Barney Inc., said Wednesday in a newsletter to clients. "While the oil price may remain volatile, the fact that most of Iraq's oil-producing territory is now said to be in the hands of the coalition appears to be a positive."

Accordingly, some economists argue that a war lasting longer than initially expected won't matter much. "If we're on a trajectory where we can see that we're headed to a goal, and it's just going to take longer to get there, I don't think that's so damaging," said Gail Fosler, chief economist at the Conference Board in New York. "We now understand the parameters of the war. I think you'll see the economic environment improve, as businesses say there is not really a case for being quite so risk averse, because we kind of know the scope of the risks."

To some extent, the outcome depends on whether the economy has shed much of the excess capacity it accumulated during the stock-bubble years of the 1990s, and is thus poised for liftoff -- as Fosler believes -- or whether it is still burdened with that capacity, as Straszheim and others contend.

"A quick war would help the economy just a little, because independent of the war, the economy is really struggling right now," Straszheim said. "But a bad or delayed outcome for the war is going to hurt the economy a lot."

The war is still far too young for much evidence of its effect to have emerged. A top executive of Volkswagen AG, Peter Hartz, was quoted yesterday as saying that "we are seeing reticence on the part of customers" because of the war. But on Wednesday the firm's chief executive said he saw "no noticeable movements either upwards or downwards."

A survey by J.D. Power and Associates showed that new-car and light-truck sales fell 8 percent in the first four days of the war, compared with the corresponding period a week earlier, but some industry executives had feared a much steeper falloff because of the "CNN effect" -- people staying glued to their TV sets at home.

Another auto executive, Carlos Ghosn, chief executive of Nissan Motor Co., said at a news conference in Paris yesterday that "when there is a situation with a major conflict and when it risks dragging on, it is not natural to be very positive on the evolution of the market in general."

washingtonpost.com