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To: 4rthofjuly007 who wrote (15761)	3/27/2003 4:37:57 PM
From: Jim Willie CB	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 89467

we vastly overestimate desire of RG to go with desertion defense of Baghdad will be much easier than you think UNLESS OF COURSE, WE DESTROY THE ENTIRE CITY WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT I EXPECT WE WILL DO THE ENTIRE CITY, PIECE BY PIECE FIRST THE MILITARY TARGETS THEN THE PLACES WHERE SOLDIERS ARE HIDING THEN THE PEOPLE WHO AID THE SOLDIERS THEN THE BRIDGES AND ROADS THEN THE ELECTRICITY THEN THE WATER SUPPLY this will turn quickly into a Siege of Stalingrad you watch, you will see unfortunately, we will enter guerrilla war, or kill countless civilians, with the press everywhere to observe / jim

To: 4rthofjuly007 who wrote (15761)	3/27/2003 4:48:10 PM
From: thames_sider	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

At some point, hopefully sooner than later, the overwhelming majority of Iraqi troops might realize that there is more risk in going against our forces than in turning on the more hardcore elements of the regime. Northern Ireland has been part of the UK since around ~1600, give or take. (It's been claimed since ~1200). There's only ever been a tiny minority in arms against us - nothing like the 20% Sunni, or the ~5% active Baathists, or even the 120K fedayeen. We're talking a few hundred, maybe a few thousand at IRA peak. It's been killing our soldiers every year, and they haven't settled yet. Plus our soldiers aren't a different colour, and speak the same language, and are often the same religion, sometimes the same nationality, and haven't been conditioned by all they've ever heard or seen to hate us - they even went in specifically to save Catholics from the harshness of Protestant rule... nothing says it will be easy, or cheap, or lead to anything bar more bitterness and deaths. And our occupation of Ulster hasn't exactly reduced terrorism in the UK, either.