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To: sea_urchin who wrote (17672)	3/27/2003 8:51:28 PM
From: philv	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81118

I saw an interview on TV with someone with an Arab background. What struck me was his last statement. Be careful, you might get what you wish for. He was referring to democracy in the Middle East. If elections were held today in Saudi Arabia, Bin Laden would be a shoe in. And, perhaps Saddam would win in Iraq. Indeed, the war's eventual outcome may be clear, but the political mine field is imponderable. Phil

To: sea_urchin who wrote (17672)	3/27/2003 10:36:08 PM
From: Alan Whirlwind	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81118

Searle, I look at it this way, free the poor Iraqi women. Can't drive a car, can't leave the house without permission. Can't do squat freedomwise. Free the poor girl...what's wrong with that? Truth is nobody cares about the average suffering fools of this world. People's political ideals are far more important to take note I suppose.

To: sea_urchin who wrote (17672)	3/28/2003 6:50:04 AM
From: sea_urchin	Respond to of 81118

This is what Charley Reese has to say on the subject of US democracy. reese.king-online.com >>>That resolution [1441] does not authorize war, and neither do any of the earlier resolutions passed at the end of the Gulf War. Mr. Bush's war is, from the standpoint of international law, illegal. It violates the United Nations charter, which the United States is obligated to abide by as long as it remains in the organization. Thanks to Mr. Bush, the United States has now become the "rogue state." This might strike you as pettifoggery, but it is actually quite serious. Whether domestically or internationally, there are only two choices: the rule of law or the law of the jungle. Mr. Bush has chosen the law of the jungle. We're bigger and stronger than Iraq, so we will crush it. That's the same mentality as the common criminal. Mr. Bush has said to the world, the democratic process is OK unless we disagree with the outcome, then to hell with it. <<<

To: sea_urchin who wrote (17672)	3/28/2003 8:39:11 AM
From: mcg404	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81118

Searle: <Strange how the US loves to promote democracy...but when it finds itself in a democratic institution...it resents being told what to do by the other members...the US believes in and practices elitism and self-determination...one day, the US will come up with an consistent policy of, "I practice what I preach", and not one of, "Do as I say, not as I do". > Ouch! Show some mercy. Your comments cut right to the heart of our pleasant american illusion that we are the 'good' guys. (g) John ps: our local television news reporters refer the imagined terrorist that are circulating among us on the verge of more attacks as 'the bad guys'. I'm not making this up. A little cartoonish, eh?