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To: Neocon who wrote (87692)	3/29/2003 2:20:46 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

<Allende began to rule as a dictator> Allende did not suspend the Rule Of Law, or the constitutional/democratic system. He would have been replaced at the next election, because of his economic failures. (And, BTW, those economic failures were in large part due to our destabilization campaign.) If he had refused to allow a "next election", then your case would be a lot stronger. But this is supposition, since he was not allowed to serve out his first term. You admit we tried and failed at one military coup against the elected government, and that we tried this before the expropriations and "suppressing dissent" and "ignoring the Chilean Congress". So how can you use Allende's actions while in power as an excuse, when the decision to overthrow him by Force, was made (and attempted) before he was in office? And why do you disbelieve our hand in the second (successful) coup attempt, while acknowledging our role in the first (unsuccessful) attempt?

To: Neocon who wrote (87692)	3/30/2003 11:53:39 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

NC, I posted below to Jacob. In my initial post i compared the heroes of the left in the past and today. My comment went from allende to arafat. As i remember it allende was popular among leftist students back then. Am i remembering correctly and is my comment to jacob below accurate in your opinion. I do not purport to be an expert on chile so i may be missing something here. mike To:Jacob Snyder who wrote (87724) From: michael97123 Sunday, Mar 30, 2003 11:28 AM Respond to of 87941 Jacob said "To say that the "peace folks" thought of Allende as a hero, ignores every piece of historical evidence. The truth is 180 degrees the other way. It was the Reaganites/NeoCons who made him a hero, because he was anti-communist. It was the "peace folks" who protested against him, year after year." Jacob, Mike saidAre you confusing allende with pinochet? I am certainly no expert on chile but i do seem to remember a coup reportedly orchestrated against allende with the support of the CIA that brought pinochet to power. Perhaps "it was the "peace folks" who protested against him, year after year.", not against allende. Since i am no expert on chile, could you or Sun, please elucidate since you both seem to have all the answers. Mike