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To: TobagoJack who wrote (30394)	3/30/2003 6:18:24 AM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

What if Iraq wins? Not a conventional victory, mind you, with Tommy Franks signing a surrender inside a tent in the middle of the desert :-) What mean by an Iraq victory is because the war in not winable. 1) What if the US troops are pinned down on a situation from which they can only retroceed? It is looking like that with the top brass swearing that they haven't come down to a halt. 2) What if the amount of troops coming still get stuck too? Do you rememebr Viertnam war? It ended up with a half million troops and even though they were defeated. 3) What all the "war" so far was display of movement but not an effective attack, apart from the bombing by air? I see footage of British commandoes exploding abandoned speed boat along Irq's coast. I see British forces smashing walls with Saddam's pictures. I see British forces capturing Baaht party HQs and capturing politicians. In summary, they are only going after the weak spots to provide footage for the cameras. Have you noticed that a couple of times the press telling us: What we are seeing on TV is not the real war. What is really going on is not being showed. OR What we see is only a cameo part of the war. Sounds suspicious like someone trying to persuade that this thing is bigger than actually is. The "fierce battles" -the embedded reports- are only a few gun shots against a couple of troops. Mate, keep one eye on this eventuality of an Iraq victory because the adventure may not be winable.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (30394)	3/30/2003 6:58:27 AM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Jay, we could get your expertize on taking companies that went to China without talking to you and only when needing to get pout they ask for your help, to lets get a glimpse on the adventure in Iraq? Can you transplant your experience on taking people who are going to lose their underwear in CHina to an army pinned down in the desert anmd get them back safe out of the stalemate without an unaceptable -under the 21st century standards- mass killing? I can analyse it under my experience of doing rill out and I like to work with desperate people seeking results.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (30394)	3/30/2003 11:23:57 AM
From: energyplay	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Re: SARS - There have been multiple studies of how the common cold spreads (SARS is in this category). It is almost impossible for the average person (not a zen master or something) to not touch their eyes or nose about every 15 minutes or more. Possilbly one way is to touch all external objects with your left hand and you face wtih your right (which right dominate people will do anyway), then frequently wash hands. I have to note that it is good to see the world (WHO, various Public Health authorities) cooperating so well. Since this disease spreads slowly and needs LOTS of exposure, aggresive action against it's spread for a week or two may actually stop it. Maybe what people are doing in HK will help slow it or stop it. Best of luck, Jay and to everyone in Hong Kong.