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To: The Philosopher who wrote (88135)	3/31/2003 12:55:23 AM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

> The only problem with this war so far is totally unrealistic expectations... Well yes. All politics aside and speaking only about the war, then yes. But I wouldn't say that it is just the media or the public that has had the wrong expectations. I think this administration has been just as wrong. The media may have amplified the views, but they did not invent them. Certainly the administration knew what the public perception was. And they never bothered to change it or tone it down. So either they too thought along the same lines, or they were dishonest. There is another thing which is unrealistic about this war. And that too has to do with the expectations. This administration is too logical (and ideological). They fail to understand the importance of emotions on human affairs. Amongst such expectations, the one that says just because they will be providing Iraqis with better life than Saddam has, the Iraqis will automagically get to love America. This ignores the depth of suffering they have gone through and the betrayal they feel. BTW, another example of failure to understand the human side of thing: Did you read the interview with one of the Turkish MPs explaining why he voted against the basing rights? One of the things that he complained about and said was a factor in denying the basing rights was the administration's attitude that they are buying them off with the loan guarantees. ST

To: The Philosopher who wrote (88135)	3/31/2003 1:41:22 AM
From: jbn3	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Christopher, As a retired Army veteran with a tour in Nam, I know as much about war as I care to. My point was that somebody in the administration is not leveling with us. They issued all the rations they thought would be needed for a picnic war in Iraq. They were egregiously wrong. It has already lasted longer than they expected. I suspect it will last, one way or another for the next two generations, unless it goes nuclear before then. We all lost when America invaded Iraq. Most of all, America lost her virtue. To the rest of the world, she no longer stands for Justice, for Right, for Good. Over 80% of the world thinks Bush is worse than Saddam. jbn3.