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To: Road Walker who wrote (173921)	4/1/2003 8:04:15 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

JF, <But if in the end, the world turns against us, because of our power and arrogance, then we will lose more than we gain. That's been the fate of every country that tried to dominate the world before.> It's a real stretch of logic to think that America wants to dominate the world. Such notions make nice soundbites for the rabid protesters out there, but is hardly grounded in reality. Instead, it feeds the need to believe in some "conspiracy theory" in order to justify whatever cause you believe in. I do fault Bush for making America such an easy target for "world" scorn (notice the quotes). But I don't consider many of the criticisms against America to be grounded in rationality. Why make it worse by joining the chorus who shouts "America is an imperialist"? Tenchusatsu

To: Road Walker who wrote (173921)	4/1/2003 9:05:49 PM
From: hueyone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

But if in the end, the world turns against us, because of our power and arrogance, then we will lose more than we gain. That's been the fate of every country that tried to dominate the world before. The fact that the U.S. spent many months, even years, trying to resolve the Iraq problem with U.N. cooperation, and the fact that you can't name any countries that the U.S. has invaded and annexed in the last century, makes your comment about power, arrogance and world domination ring hollow imo. Regards, Huey

To: Road Walker who wrote (173921)	4/2/2003 1:54:47 AM
From: Barry Grossman	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

John, Where did I talk about justification for the war? I was talking about double standards in some media. I certainly didn't mean to imply that I think we should attack, defeat and occupy every country that abuses their citizens. What I think is that we have the right to defend our national security and that is what I think we are doing in Iraq. I guess you don't. We have different views on national security it seems to me. Our role in the world is one that has been forced upon us by the events of the last century. We didn't begin the 20th century as the strongest country in the world but that's how it ended up. We are strong because we need to be because there are extreme dangers that exist in spite of the United Nations best efforts and hopes that they will go away. When they don't, we have no one left to turn to but ourselves and that's what we do. It's not imposing democracy nor arrogance of power but self preservation that drives our current position in the world. Try to consider that. Barry