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To: FiloF who wrote (69182)	4/3/2003 10:46:54 AM
From: zonder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

We do not know if torture occurred here - right now, there are no verifiable reports so we should assume that it did not. I agree with you. So if someone is not fully educated in the "art" of torture and they are not applying the correct techniques, then they were not engaging in torture? That is not what I have said at all. What I have tried to say was the following - Injuries amounting to broken arms & legs and a gunshot wound does not suggest torture. Sure, they may have tortured this poor girl. However, the extent of the injuries we know of at this point does not show that she was tortured, as was the claim of StanX. They just reported that both her legs and one arm were broken. These are not military injuries, but torture. She was shot too. Message 18790951 My reply was that these are not consistent with torture wounds. That is all I am saying. Even if they were intending to inflict severe pain to punish and/or obtain information from the victim? I am beginning to doubt my level in English. Is it the words I use? What part of my post below is not clear? In short, from the little information that we have available (i.e. legs & arm broken and gunshot wound) it does not look like she was tortured. It looks like she was injured in combat, or trying to run away, or something. It does not look like someone deliberately tried to cause her excruciating pain, because, frankly, you don't need much of an imagination to find more effective ways of torturing a 19-year-old girl. Message 18791022