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To: zonder who wrote (69237)	4/4/2003 3:21:34 AM
From: Gary Ng	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

zonder, Re: Nowhere have I said "Doesn't sound like torture, because it is too simple That is the impression I got, as well as a number of others. However, I do fully understand your skeptism when it is hinted as 'torture' and my comment both to you(if you go back and check) and StanX way, no way to confirm(he used his experience) or rule out(you use your reasoning) whether it is torture or not, just from the known fact of broken arm and leg. Let's put it to rest :-)

To: zonder who wrote (69237)	4/4/2003 1:34:00 PM
From: Fred Levine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

Zonder-- You are quite right; I did mean to say intraspecific. However, to repeat, I never supported Bush's reasons for going into this war. However, I found it disgusting that the world watched as Saddam slaughtered his own people. Saddam's atrocities require accountability and the UN failed to hold him accountable. In the same way, Milosevic was stopped and the UN again failed. It actually gave him cover for his ethnic cleansing of muslims. Saddam and the UN are much higher on my "bad guy" list than Bush. In fact, I am beginning to believe that Bush may turn out to be on the Iraqis' "good guy" list. We'll see what Bush and Blair do. fred