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To: benwood who wrote (233486)	4/4/2003 12:58:20 PM
From: Win-Lose-Draw	Respond to of 436258

next you'll be bringing up his curtailing of civil liberties under the dark cloud cast by the terrorist attack on the reichstag. or how he went to war as the curtailing legislation was sunsetting. eeeh...it happened after the bursting of an historical bubble...if we get the depression so many here are expecting...

To: benwood who wrote (233486)	4/4/2003 12:59:53 PM
From: yard_man	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

Ben, I don't agree with the war. I don't think it was wise on a number of accounts -- I do care what the world thinks -- I especially don't want to see this used to polarize into a larger "religious war." I do think there is validity to asking why we were attacked on 9/11 or why Arabian or a radical muslim element wants to harm the US. I DON"T buy the reasoning that it's because they "envy" our freedom and that they are evil incarnate -- enemies of freedom -- yada, yada, yada -- I agree very much with Ron Paul's writings on the matter ... But that is not inconsistent with my belief that we shouldn't submit or be bound to a supra-national bodies "laws" or "resolutions." Indeed, Bush and the US do look silly, in that they pick and choose and basically use the UN to their purpose -- that's what I said about honesty. Much more honest to make agreements bilateral and let the duration be such that the two countries continue to agree. That's honest. The UN isn't.