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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (89970)	4/4/2003 2:36:57 PM
From: maceng2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Romans allowed citizenship while the British did not. Perhaps a visit to our fair country might change your mind a little. Lots of Roman forts and stuff to visit. Ever wonder why the former colonies like India, Pakistan, the West Indies still think well of Britain? One of the answers is a fair proportion of their relatives live here now and are full citizens of this country. They own a sizable portion of it. Unlike some of the citizens here, I feel I could live in Brixton or Bradford with a fair degree of safety as a white Anglo Saxon person. I am aware of the racial tensions here, and differences in standard of living that goes with that, for some portions of the population in a general sense. Although I have never been to Texas, I have lived in the USA, and can say with a fair degree of confidence that it would be more unsafe for me to live in the poorer areas, racially mixed, in the USA in a general sense. As far as the Romans are concerned. The foreign legions were always used up first in general fighting. In Britain at least, the actual Roman legions were there just in case the Foreign Legions (usually posted from some other corner of the Empire) rebelled. Some "Roman Citizens" were definitely regarded as more "Roman" then others. Hardly a level playing field for everyone. Bummer if you were a slave. Worse then being a black convicted drug user in Texas.

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (89970)	4/5/2003 1:22:43 AM
From: D. Long	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

The problem with the analogy is that when the Romans "stood up for the parts" of Roman culture which were "honorable" it was in the wake of the Legions, after the local puppet Kings ceased being helpful... You can't argue that we're forcing our culture down people's throats, while simultaneously denying it. We export our products, which others are free to buy or not to buy. Just as no one is forcing an American to eat Thai, or buy Japanese cars, or watch old Kurosawa or Sergio Leone movies, or buy unfinished, unassembled furniture from some trendy Swedish store. Derek