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To: tejek who wrote (2621)4/4/2003 9:08:24 PM
From: uu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2926
 
> I have a great deal of respect for C. Powell but he seems to have forgotten how we acquired Hawaii, Puerto Rico and some of the islands in the Pacific.

2 comments I would like to make:

1) Ask the following question PLEASE:

Are the people of Hawaii, Puerto Rico, and the islands of Pacific having a better life now, or if they had been left on their own! Are they not enjoying their freedom, prosperity, and human dignity?

2) If you want to base your thinking on that, well then I suppose we all are a bunch of invadors since all 50 states of the U.S originally belonged to the Indians!



To: tejek who wrote (2621)4/5/2003 10:07:05 AM
From: haqihana  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2926
 
tejek, Perhaps you should read a bit of history, yourself. It was a Puritanic religious group that had the first intentions of controlling the Hawaiian Islands, and revert the happy islanders to a very severe Christian doctrine.(I am a Christian, but not a fanatical one). The offspring of those missionaries became quite wealthy on the backs of the people,(Dole being a prime example) and those families caused the Islands to become a territory of the U.S. The citizens of the Territory of Hawaii voted to become a bona fide state of the union.

Puerto Rico, and Cuba, which you forgot to mention, were acquired after the Spanish American War, and also included the Phillipines. I am not sure, but I think Guam, and Wake Island, were also in that package. Any of the other islands we took in the Pacific, were liberated from the Japanese invaders, and we were welcomed by the inhabitants. If you want to speak of acquiring territory in war, you must add the areas that are now the states of New Mexico, Arizona, California, Utah, and Nevada, taken from the Mexican nation. And as always, I must protest the rape, and murder, of tens of thousands of the aboriginal human natives of North, and South America, known as the Indians.

None of that smacks of Imperialism. Especially considering that at the end of WW2, we could have taken control of the entire world, and chose to rebuild the defeated nations with our own money instead. That is hardly an example of Imperialism.

The only way to undo some expansion of one nation, over another, is to revert to the cave man days, and they even fought over women, and better caves for themselves.



To: tejek who wrote (2621)4/5/2003 12:52:36 PM
From: lorne  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2926
 
tejek. You said...." I have a great deal of respect for C. Powell but he seems to have forgotten how we acquired Hawaii, Puerto Rico and some of the islands in the Pacific.".....

OK, I'm curios just how were those places acquired by the USA?