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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (12453)	4/11/2003 7:45:19 PM
From: MulhollandDrive	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21614

>>Or is it that Turkey harbors a hidden desire to control and occupy the oil fields of Mosul and Kirkuk?<< are you concerned about powell authorizing turkish "observers" into the area? by what authority or justification do they have inserting themselves even as "observers"

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (12453)	4/11/2003 8:15:58 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 21614

< to prevent their government from going non-democratic> party lists is something you are not supposed to understand in USA. Please give a liitle wink if you do, although it is dangerous to even recognize the word.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (12453)	4/11/2003 8:19:15 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 21614

Turkey and Israel and religious constitutional abuse is a matte of who has a constitution. From a murrican point of view it is a matter of who the most ignorance.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (12453)	4/11/2003 8:20:44 PM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 21614

Anyway, thanks for once again ticking the statistics on ignorant murricans.. That is, anyway and obviously, the main ingredient in 2-party systems and historical dilemmas, Jim Crow with a Wig and all.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (12453)	4/14/2003 4:26:09 AM
From: zonder	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 21614

>>>Turkey's military is set up as a quasi-independent organization who has the right and the duty to step in and seize power whenever they feel democracy is in danger.<<< Sorry Zonder.. It's not much of a secret... That's been widely known for decades.. And it's the same excuse Pinochet used for overthrowing Allende in Chile.. That he was "preserving" democracy... What??? I am telling you that the TURKISH CONSTITUTION designates their army as the "protector of democracy" and assigns it THE RIGHT AND THE DUTY to step in and seize power when they see fit. That's not an excuse. That is their Constitution. You must have a lot of nerve to bring up Pinochet, who was practically put to power by YOUR country, because the US was not happy with the left-wing Allende and wanted to play "regime change". zmag.org I would agree to an extent that having both the Turkish and Chilean military step in and prevent their respective societies from being hijacked by non-democratic elements (or those who would invite in Marxist patrons) was preferable to those political systems falling apart. I woudn't, actually. I would prefer to see Allende untouched. The situation in Turkey was de facto civil war. Did you read my last post to you or did I waste my time writing it?> As for Ataturk, there may be a cult of personality surrounding him in Turkey, but he also had a reputation for siding with Germany in WWI, That's it. It seems I AM wasting my time. Ataturk was not the Padishah of the Ottoman Empire. He was the President of the Republic of Turkey, that was established in 1923. Therefore, he could not have possibly "sided with Germany in WWI". It was the Padishah who decided to go to WWI on Germany's side. Ataturk was a young officer in the army at the time, with about as much authority on decisions to take sides in wars as you have of invading Iraq. When you know a bit more on the subject, we can talk more. Bye for now...