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Politics : Canadian Political Free-for-All -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (2417)4/12/2003 4:24:05 PM
From: John Carragher  Respond to of 37096
 
Makes a lot of sense to me.. Why go visit if they are going to throw stones. g

Bush has a full agenda no sense wasting time. Besides he hates to leave U.S.g



To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (2417)4/12/2003 7:57:28 PM
From: Snowshoe  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 37096
 
Decision not to hand over Iraqis called final straw

LOL! Canada joins "Axis of Flirting with Evil"



To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (2417)4/13/2003 8:55:53 PM
From: Ally  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 37096
 
If Bush had really cared for good relations between his administration and his biggest trading partner neighbour, he would have visited Canada soon after he became president. Instead, he visited Mexico first. He seldom acknowledged Canada's presence, and instead rationalized a limp excuse "oh I don't need to mention Canada because we are family" when he didn't mention Canada in his 911 speech to the Senate even after Canada was the first one that helped him in the 911 crisis - landing American planes and acommodating/feeding the passengers. The truth is, Bush is the first U.S. president who has looked down on his neighbour to the North. He has summarily dismissed Canada as unimportant. Since he became president, his administration has been very unfriendly toward us. In every trade negotiation since he became president, Canada was bullied and got the short end of the stick - viz: softwood, auto, and now wheat. Even though the WTO has time and again found in favour of Canada in trade disputes with U.S. (meaning, WTO acknowledged that US has persistently tried to do a number over us), it has not stopped U.S. from taking every advantage they can. So when I read that he was scheduled to visit Canada in May this year, I wonder... why now? It doesn't make sense for his visit at such a late time after assuming presidency. We are not fools. We can feel the unfriendly and dismissive vibe toward us. What does he want from Canada after dismissing us so much that will change Canadians' feelings toward him? Especially now that Canada has decided not to participate in a war based on his doctrine, it makes even less sense to visit Canada. What can Bush and Chrietien talk about? He has dissed Canada in all his behaviour. Obviously, he doesn't like Chrietien's French accent. So what can he possibly want by visiting us at this late stage?

As for those of us who may be nervous nellies over trade with U.S. grow up! America depends just as much on the trade as we do. As Chrietien said, "they trade with us because they benefit from the trade, not because they are doing us a favour." Just last week, Kraft announced closing the U.S. Life Saver plant and moving to Canada because the cost of sugar here is much cheaper than in the U.S. (thanks to the protectionist measures U.S. takes to protect their sugar beet farmers). Last week too, Alcoa announced closing the U.S. plant and expanding their Quebec plant because hydro is so much cheaper in Quebec.

The bottom line is.... Canada must not be afraid to stand up and elect decisions based on its own conscience. If we think the war is wrong because it is based on a new American doctrine of acting alone simply because it is a super power, then we have the sovereign right to say "no thanks". We are a peaceful nation. What if U.S decides to go to war with every state in the Persian Gulf that U.S. says has terrorists? Should Canada blindly participate in every war U.S desires?

We should maintain a neutral stance to the Bush doctrine. Trade is secondary to a nation's conscience.