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To: JohnM who wrote (92958)	4/12/2003 5:49:44 PM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 281500

This is a military victory done for reasons of national self interest which will have a side effect, hopefully, of making life better for some large portion of Iraqis. That's right, we didn't do this war to "sacrifice ourselves for humanity." That is the kind of war you can get behind, isn't it John? We did this war for our greedy old "self interest." And that taints it in your book, doesn't it? Of course, making the world safe for us also made it safe for the Iraqis. If we walked away today and did nothing more, the Iraqis would be fantastically better off than they were under Saddam. But you will never admit that. Only "hopefully," for a "large portion." Maybe.

To: JohnM who wrote (92958)	4/12/2003 8:19:15 PM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

John, to borrow a favorite condescending phrase. Take a deep breath and relax. Maybe go for a long walk and join a support the troops rally in your area. :) I realize it's difficult for you to believe universal values of freedom and liberty exist, but, they do. President Bush has tapped into the same universal values which freed most of Europe just a little over a decade ago. The celebrations by the Iraqi people, the flowers given to American troops, and the cheering along the roads is all a part of the predictions you poo-pood a few weeks and months ago. Yes, those like Bush, who are part of the great unwashed mass were right. And nearly 30 million people are free because of their clear headed thinking and dogged determination. By the way, I don't demonize posters here. I question their judgement and ability to critically examine other points of view. Your mis-characterization that I demonize, was a form of demonization in and of itself. The fact is John the anti-war protestors, the "I hate anything Bush supports" and the critical arm chair generals were all wrong. This has been an amazingly successful military campaign, which will not only win the war in record time, with incredible low levels of casualties, but, it will win the peace as well. Democracy is now coming to the heart of Middle East. All brought to you "Courtesy of the Red White and Blue". :)