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To: sea_urchin who wrote (17965)4/12/2003 5:43:23 PM
From: Gary H  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 81286
 
It's bush who opened Pandora's box and he won't be able to put it back. Will the rest of the world be expected to do so and pay the price?



To: sea_urchin who wrote (17965)4/12/2003 7:39:55 PM
From: sea_urchin  Respond to of 81286
 
> I'm very pleased General Al Saadi gave himself up to the Americans. I'm sure he's not guilty of anything

islam-online.net

>>>"I expect to be questioned, to be interrogated about the Iraqi armament program," General Amer Al-Saadi, a rockets specialist and Saddam's chief weapons advisor, told German ZDF public television, Agence France-Presse (AFP) said.

"I tell you for history: we have nothing, not to defend the regime," said Saadi, who was the chief interlocutor of U.S. disarmament experts, referring to U.S.-British allegations that the Saddam regime still had prohibited weapons.<<<



To: sea_urchin who wrote (17965)4/12/2003 9:09:59 PM
From: philv  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 81286
 
>"Not only because of the aliens, I think the US may get away with it."<

Searle, they might actually get away with it, but not clean. All the governments in the world are aware of the facts, know the stated reasons for the "war" were phony, and they now must either swallow this bitter pill of dishonesty and go along with the scheme, or swallow the even more bitter pill of honest objection. Here in Canada, Bush has cancelled his May meeting with P.M. Chretien. I'm afraid we will pay a considerable price for our stance re: war.

I agree with you regarding Al Saadi. He was known as 7 of diamonds you know, one of 52 or so on the most wanted list; WANTED.....dead or alive. Pretty smart move on his part to go to the media before giving himself up to the Americans.

I have for a long time wondered about the danger of terrorism in the U.S. Was that a convenient excuse to garner fear and whip up public opinion to support the war? There has been no follow up to 911, despite the fact that there are apparently thousands of "sleepers" in the US, ready to strike with WMDs, so they told us.

I think the Kurds will again be sacrificed for a greater cause. They apparently enjoyed a semi-autonomous status, and will probably continue like that with US security guarantees.

Quite a lesson in world affairs we are witnessing, and far from over.

Phil



To: sea_urchin who wrote (17965)4/16/2003 3:00:01 PM
From: sea_urchin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 81286
 
>I was amazed at the speed the Iraqi forces simply collapsed, after having fought so valiantly for many days. Indeed, I even had the idea that some kind of "deal" was done although the US will never admit it.

I am insightful, even if I have to say so myself!

informationclearinghouse.info

>>>According to a number of intelligence sources in both the Gulf and Israel; the Russian Ambassador to Iraq and indeed former Iraqi military officers, the links the CIA and US Special Forces had previously made with Iraqi commanders effectively resulted in the surrender of Baghdad. Even the Republican Guard were apparently ordered at a crucial moment not to blow certain bridges south of the City and to withdraw allowing the US Marines to make their unexpected appearance in the suburbs of Baghdad. In return for not being included on Washington's list of 55 of the regimes most wanted, some senior Iraqi military commanders ensured that armoured vehicles were arrayed in such a way that they presented no immediate threat and basically ordered their remaining soldiers to 'go home'. In return for the safety of their families and ultimate escape, senior Iraq commanders gave the US military the keys to Baghdad, Mosul, and Tikrit. <<<

informationclearinghouse.info

>>>The deal includes, granting American citizenship and residency in the United States to some of the first echelon commanders (Republican Guards) and their families, depending on their wishes.

The offer proposed by the American command in Iraq to the Republican Guard and Saddam's Fedayeen was generous. The offers were run past Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, who okayed them immediately.<<<

So now you know.