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Politics : Stop the War! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (13004)	4/13/2003 8:07:41 PM
From: Machaon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 21614

<< LIBERTY was listed in JANE'S FIGHTING SHIPS as a non-combatant. >> You are beating a dead propaganda horse. The attack on the USS Liberty was determined to be an accident. Case closed. jewishvirtuallibrary.org ===> "The Israeli attack on the USS Liberty was a grievous error, largely attributable to the fact that it occurred in the midst of the confusion of a full-scale war in 1967. Ten official United States investigations and three official Israeli inquiries have all conclusively established the attack was a tragic mistake." <=== ===> "Accidents caused by “friendly fire” are common in wartime. In 1988, the U.S. Navy mistakenly downed an Iranian passenger plane, killing 290 civilians. During the Gulf War, 35 of the 148 Americans who died in battle were killed by “friendly fire.” In April 1994, two U.S. Black Hawk helicopters with large U.S. flags painted on each side were shot down by U.S. Air Force F-15s on a clear day in the “no fly” zone of Iraq, killing 26 people. In April 2002, an American F-16 dropped a bomb that killed four Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan. In fact, the day before the Liberty was attacked, Israeli pilots accidentally bombed one of their own armored columns. <=== You can keep trying to dishonest, by attempting to use the tragic USS Liberty incident for your own personal propaganda tool, but who really cares. If you want, go into a corner and discuss it with yourself. It is a dead issue. Israel will soon be part of the coalition, and together with America and their other allies will drive terrorism off the face of this earth. Either you are with America, and it's allies, or you are with the terrorists. You have time to make up your mind.

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (13004)	4/13/2003 8:17:38 PM
From: craig crawford	Respond to of 21614

>> THe ship was flying the United States flag. A large flag. And it's number was prominently painted on the hull. That number was in Jane's Fightring Ships and identified it as a US gov't ship. And they sank it anyway. << minor correction. due to the heroic deeds of the crew, the israelis did not sink the liberty. she was listing pretty bad though, and eventually was scuttled.

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (13004)	4/13/2003 8:48:38 PM
From: AK2004	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 21614

re: The USS LIBERTY was a freighter yes it was, you did not need carrier to cause the damage in Israel re: That does NOT give the Israelis the right to sink any ship they find in international waters. Period. during the war time military ships are attacked in the international waters. Period. re: LIBERTY was listed in JANE'S FIGHTING SHIPS as a non-combatant and 2 civilian airplanes took down world trade center re: And I'd suggest you are seriously ignorant of the facts of the matter. And determined to prove it. go ahead but make it quick re: You are required to identify it and verify that it is an enemy ship. unidentified military ship approaching the tiny country? re: If they are not, you can execute them if you find them. the risk comes with territory but let me ask a question - would you be ok if israel would execute cia operatives in Israel? I would not be..... re: is not a spy that is not what I said re: And are you saying Israel had the right to sink anything afloat? Yes? No? no, and there might have been some errors in judgement but the bottom line is that it was not intentional. Not only Israel was attacking it's best friend but Israel also knew that there were Saratoga and America in the neighborhood.