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To: TimF who wrote (2436)	4/14/2003 4:10:51 AM
From: marcos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 37073

Separate issues yes, but current US actions on them are equally indicative of the same overweening arrogance ... really everything is connected to everything else, at some level, and not very deep down sometimes .... the same impulse that leads the Bush II regime to shake its fist at the rest of us on the planet leads it also to enrich its pine lobby friends at our expense .... and, of course, at the expense of far more US nationals who find themselves on the buying end of that sorry twisted excuse for lumber they call pinus taeda Cellucci, here's one article, you can find many more on the cbc site by using the search, upper right hand corner - cbc.ca There are things he's said that i agree with completely, for one the need for this g.w.n. to resurrect its military .... the US has a legitimate interest in seeing us defend ourselves well because that will secure their northern border, we must expect that, it's perfectly reasonable .... at the same time, it is in our interests that we defend ourselves well enough that we never find foreign troops stationed here on active duty .... there is much training here among NATO nations, that's fine, but US troops pointing guns at us here, we don't ever want to see that, certainly not under the current admin down there anyway I think it would give a degree of legitimacy to invasions of sovereign nations if a reasonable quorum of democracies joined together on them in cooperative fashion ...... that's how you start off making a civilised society out of disparate individuals, you get a group together to decide things, pass laws and enforce them ... same thing between nations, clearly it's going to be even more difficult but it's just as vitally necessary, because like you say without it the place is under jungle law, and only the eight thousands pounds gorilla is going to like that state of affairs .... and, he's only going to like it until he's asleep one day and the smaller critters take action to rectify the situation ..... it is in everyone's genuine interests to decide these things in more civilised ways ... nothing in that paragraph, or in my previous post, referred to the concepts of 'right' or 'wrong', nor to the UN [which needs repair or replacement, granted] One day this Bush II bunch will get voted out, or die off, or something, then we'll see a change back to more rational policies in international affairs ..... probably, because things like that seem to swing back and forth Doesn't look at all unlikely to me that they've got the syrians in the gunsights right now, there's all sorts of justification rhetoric getting ramped up down there ..... last summer was just like this, when they first started to market the war on Iraq ...... politically, this admin could maybe let their perma-war slack off for a few months, but not much more than that, because going into the elections of November 2004 they sure won't want any spare attention getting directed to the economy or civil liberties or any of that domestic stuff