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Politics : Canadian Political Free-for-All -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TimF who wrote (2439)	4/14/2003 2:24:27 PM
From: Lino...	Respond to of 37073

......and never forget that it wasn't the US that fucked with our figure skaters (it was our new best friends) ;>)

To: TimF who wrote (2439)	4/14/2003 3:39:34 PM
From: marcos	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 37073

In both cases the actions stem from the same philosophy, that all gets decided in the backrooms of Washington, marketed to the US public if and when deemed necessary or desirable, then executed In neither case do we who are severely effected by the actions get any input whatsoever .... might as well talk to a stump as try to get your case across in DC these days In both cases the arms of government involved, the military and the 'Commerce' department, are branches of the presidencia, what you call in the US the 'executive branch' .... so action against us does not come from people of the US or the legislature or anything, it comes from the administration In both cases we felt immediate and drastic change well before Sept 2001 .... the 'Commerce' department moved against us in early August, having made threatening noises for months before ..... then in the days following the WTC events, in which twenty-four canadians died, by the way, they moved against us again, one fine morning that October we found the penalties on us more than doubled ... so we're real clear on where their priorities lie You must realise, we are tuned to these things ... what would never make the back page of a newspaper down there can devastate a forestry community here ..... overall between the two nations, it is a permanently unequal relationship, we are a mouse sleeping with an elephant, we feel every twitch and grunt, that was Trudeau's way of putting it There are times when, whether by accident or by design, US administrations will have toward us policies based on fairness and honour .... we look forward quite eagerly to the next of these periods And sure, no one is suggesting an invasion of us, that is hardly necessary when much of the country is owned by US nationals already, and when Washington can make 'free trade' mean whatever it wants it to mean .... but there is an agreement for 'mutual defense' that allows for crossing the border in emergency situations .... while such a plan is always there as a possibility, de facto, a lot of us don't like seeing it made de jure, it is an insult to the nation born at Vimy that she cannot defend herself, an insult from certain canadians only, i hasten to add, this is an internal matter and more than a few of us would like to see court-martialled any general proposing it .... and worse than that for any politician in favour - this is our country and we either defend it or we lose it, any politician leaning to the latter is guilty of treason ... try an idea like that on mexicanos, and they'd be committing political suicide, they couldn't even buy a carnita in the street, i sure as hell wouldn't sell them one, let the spineless bastards starve ..... there's a thing - i'd like to see a lot more can-mex contact, there are things to learn both ways, we are americanos together, we both sleep with the elephant, mexicanos would do well to loosen up considerably on the isolationism, more toward a canadian policy of the fifties, say, and in cooperation with us, also the chilenos and whoever else in these Americas with whom we can find common ground ..... but this g.w.n. has to smarten up a lot first, and the Alliance way won't do that, they would rebuild the military but then they would surrender its use to whatever adventure the bushistas thought up next ... what we need is a genuine made in Ottawa policy, but first we need a genuine Ottawa, and there's no place in sight where we can get one of those